Digital Snakes

Coolstuff · 26th March 2004

I am wondering if anyone has tried any of the digital snakes that are now available. IE: any of the Cobranet devices like the QSC Rave, Whirlwind eSnake, etc.?

On the surface, they seem really cool, with bi-directional circuits, mic pre's at each input, 96/24 A/D's, even the ability for remote control.

They are also networkable, so with a single 64 channel CAT-5 cable run, you can lay out multiple stage boxes. Belden and maybe Gepco are making armored CAT-5 cable now, and Neutrik makes a reinforced connector.

But what do you all think?

**Remoteness** · 9th April 2004

On the surface, they seem very cool. Is the price point there yet? Are they workhorses? I guess time will tell.

The bi-directional circuits, mics, 96/24 A/D's, networkable and the ability for remote control make them very inviting.

Have you tried any of them out yet? And what about Whirlwind's eSnake?

Coolstuff · 9th April 2004

I have not tried them yet, but have been keeping my eye on such lines as the QSC Rave, the Whirlwind ESnake and EMod systems, and the Aviom CAT-5 personal monitor network system.

Lately, I have been researching networkable DSP systems for a corporate conference /broadcast facility. (Symetrix's Symnet, BSS' Soundweb, etc.) Similar to a digital snake, but has DSP's distributed throughout the I/O interfaces. That gives you drag & drop network design and processing right at the inputs and outputs. By DSP, I mean mixing, routing, EQ, comp/limiting, etc.

The A/D D/A convertors are up to 96/48 or better and you can get mic pre's on the inputs (or use your own, but you can contol theirs on the network).

Seems very cool and if they work well, that's what I'm about!

theoryinmotion · 10th December 2009

Have you seen where SymNet is at now? Amazing features and networking capabilities. Literally amazing sounding commercial platform!

BenFranske · 11th December 2009

I have installed and maintain a Whirlwind eSnake Cobranet installation for live sound use in a 800 seat theater. What specifically are you interested in knowing about?

I would think that for recording purposes a non-IP based digital snake (such as MADI) would be better. The IP protocol adds a lot of complexity and some latency, for an installed system it does add some useful flexibility though.

26th March 2004	#1
Coolstuff Gear Head Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 54 Thread Starter	Digital Snakes I am wondering if anyone has tried any of the digital snakes that are now available. IE: any of the Cobranet devices like the QSC Rave, Whirlwind eSnake, etc.? On the surface, they seem really cool, with bi-directional circuits, mic pre's at each input, 96/24 A/D's, even the ability for remote control. They are also networkable, so with a single 64 channel CAT-5 cable run, you can lay out multiple stage boxes. Belden and maybe Gepco are making armored CAT-5 cable now, and Neutrik makes a reinforced connector. But what do you all think?

9th April 2004	#2
Remoteness Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 7,405	On the surface, they seem very cool. Is the price point there yet? Are they workhorses? I guess time will tell. The bi-directional circuits, mics, 96/24 A/D's, networkable and the ability for remote control make them very inviting. Have you tried any of them out yet? And what about Whirlwind's eSnake? __________________ Steve Remote AuraSonicLtd.com the home of ASL Mobile & Location Production Remoteness on the Linkedin Network What about my Facebook Profile? Remoteness on Myspace

10th December 2009	#4
theoryinmotion Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 166	Have you seen where SymNet is at now? Amazing features and networking capabilities. Literally amazing sounding commercial platform! __________________ Theory the Producer

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BenFranske Gear interested Joined: May 2008 Posts: 26	I have installed and maintain a Whirlwind eSnake Cobranet installation for live sound use in a 800 seat theater. What specifically are you interested in knowing about? I would think that for recording purposes a non-IP based digital snake (such as MADI) would be better. The IP protocol adds a lot of complexity and some latency, for an installed system it does add some useful flexibility though.