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Old 11th May 2007   #1
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hi, i play bluegrass and acoustic music, guitar mandolin banjo dobro bass etc, i single track all instruments myself, and ovedub. i have a gml 2032, and a great river me-1nv
traditionally, there is not a lot of compresson in this type of music but, what would be a good vocal , acoustic instrument compressor for my above stated set up, ive been looking at the purple audio mc77, and la-3as hear the ssl stuff is great but is it worth the money for what i need all help would be much appreciated
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you got a lot of options - when I would be looking for a first compressor I'd go for a Buzz Audio SOC - that thing is the new 1176 IMNSHO - it has a bit of an euphonic-character - really sweet.

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I have been enjoying the buzz elixir. & essence for that very same type of music.
Very detailed!
Very euphonic!
Also the tube tech cl1b I just got in is quite lovely as well

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CraneSong STC-8 works great for me ... Transparent, yet adding some very subtle "euphony". And so many options in it ...
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I have been enjoying the buzz elixir. & essence for that very same type of music.
Very detailed!
Very euphonic!
Also the tube tech cl1b I just got in is quite lovely as well

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how do the cl1b and essence compare to each other in your opinion?

im quite in love w/ my elixir/essence combo as well.
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Tube tech CL1b is pretty amazing, I havent heard the Buzz audio gear so I can't comment, but it is well respected, you also can't go wrong with a Crane Song Trakker
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The Summit TLA100A is very useful for most acoustic instruments IMO...
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I have 2 Trakkers and a SOC. The Trakkers are way trickier to use because of all those coloration options. So it's a very versatile box - the SOC is very straight forward - plug it in - fiddle with the knobs untill it sounds good - forget it.

So if I have time I try the Trakkers but when I'm under the gun it's Buzz time. Actually I prefer it most of the time to the Trakkers because it has this very nice sounding low end - not really colorless but man does it sound good.

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Are you looking for gain control, or "color" compression? If you want to stick to the traditional sound of that style, but control dynamics, I'd look into a vari-mu or perhaps an optical compressor. If you're looking for some color and squash, look into a FET type (the MC77 you mentioned) or maybe a VCA comp.
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how do the cl1b and essence compare to each other in your opinion?

im quite in love w/ my elixir/essence combo as well.
I have not had a whole lot of time with the cl1b as of yet to compare the two, but first impressions maybe , the essence = optical punch. The tube tech = pillowesqe tube, or something like that. The tube tech to me sounds real clean without compression, but when you apply it, things just get beautiful!

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Another vote for the Tube-Tech. I think it has great character.
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I have not had a whole lot of time with the cl1b as of yet to compare the two, but first impressions maybe , the essence = optical punch. The tube tech = pillowesqe tube, or something like that. The tube tech to me sounds real clean without compression, but when you apply it, things just get beautiful!

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nice! got some awesome compressors there

id be interested to know any details if you ever directly compared the two.
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The Summit TLA100A is very useful for most acoustic instruments IMO...
Only if you like the top end rolled off
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I have 2 Trakkers and a SOC. The Trakkers are way trickier to use because of all those coloration options. So it's a very versatile box - the SOC is very straight forward - plug it in - fiddle with the knobs untill it sounds good - forget it.

So if I have time I try the Trakkers but when I'm under the gun it's Buzz time. Actually I prefer it most of the time to the Trakkers because it has this very nice sounding low end - not really colorless but man does it sound good.

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Hmmm I have to say I don't think it takes anytime to get a great sound out of a trakker, It's actually astounding how hard you can hit them and not have them sound smashed. As far as the modes go just pick one
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hi, i play bluegrass and acoustic music, guitar mandolin banjo dobro bass etc, i single track all instruments myself, and ovedub. i have a gml 2032, and a great river me-1nv
traditionally, there is not a lot of compresson in this type of music but, what would be a good vocal , acoustic instrument compressor for my above stated set up, ive been looking at the purple audio mc77, and la-3as hear the ssl stuff is great but is it worth the money for what i need all help would be much appreciated
I've been using a Peavey VC/L-2 very lightly on my guitar and mandolin. I like it a lot.
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The Chandler TG1 used to be my go to for acst gtr, but I replaced it with the newer Zener model TG comp.

It adds such a wonderfull shimmer that I find hard to beat. It's wonderfull on vocals as well.
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The Buzz SOC is just a fantastic choice for your applications! I echo all that Jo has said already, just playing with the attack time with this unit on acoustic gtr is awesome for tone and texture control!
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Only if you like the top end rolled off
Well, I've got four TLA-100A's, so I guess I do.
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Well, I've got four TLA-100A's, so I guess I do.
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The Chandler TG1 used to be my go to for acst gtr, but I replaced it with the newer Zener model TG comp.

It adds such a wonderfull shimmer that I find hard to beat. It's wonderfull on vocals as well.
Interesting. Are you using the Zener for tracking acoustic? What kind of setting are you using?
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dav bg4 might be a good choice for what you're doing, review here: DAV Electronics BG4
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hi, i play bluegrass and acoustic music, guitar mandolin banjo dobro bass etc, i single track all instruments myself, and ovedub. i have a gml 2032, and a great river me-1nv
traditionally, there is not a lot of compresson in this type of music but, what would be a good vocal , acoustic instrument compressor for my above stated set up, ive been looking at the purple audio mc77, and la-3as hear the ssl stuff is great but is it worth the money for what i need all help would be much appreciated
The Safe Sound Audio P1 = great sound on these sources, easy to use and musical, and you'd have to try real hard to get it to sound bad!

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I have a sebatron thorax that i use for most of my compression duties when tracking. it's an optical that is as fast as i need it. Running the comp in 'hot' mode gets me a grinding bass ( or vocal ) dynamic that sits level.
i also have a pair of classic black face/metered dbx160 that i use occasionally.
They are quick and easy to set but lack the attack and release control.
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Buzz has already been mentioned so I'll add two other outstanding choices that can be used on vocals and acoustic instruments:
Requisite L2 MKII/or/Pal+ and Thermionic Culture Phoenix
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thanks

thanks for all the replies, the buzz audio is looking really good and may be what i go with its in my range, and stereo so if i wanted it on stereo sources, or try it on a buss. i try to get my tones, with my mic placement, and preamp and mic selection, and what little eq i use is the gml so its pretty transparent, i just need something for taming things that jump out, not overly colored but i would like that option, anyway thanks again, its hard to try stuff out, when you live as far in the sticks as i do, and most of the time you guys opinions have been spot on for my gear needs, have a good one

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Interesting. Are you using the Zener for tracking acoustic? What kind of setting are you using?
Well on the TG1 I used to use comp mode with just a couple 2 or 3 dB of GR (although it probably more, the meters are slow) with a release of 2,3 or sometimes 4 depending on the song/tempo.

However with the Zener, it's too new for me to say. I used it last week of ac gtr but the player was all over the map dynamically that I kept it in a constant state of compression.

Oh I should mention that I used it for mixing not tracking. Ac gtr is an instrument that I preffer not to comp on the way in 'cause alot of times in the end the original signal sounds the best and I use compression more for effect than control.
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+1 for Buzz SOC 1.1. It will never leave my rack.

SPL dynamaxx is also great on acoustic instruments and won't burn a big hole in your wallet.
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I don't use much compression, but I like the Daking FET II... Anybody else using it for primarily acoustic music?
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