other options for recording live concerts

the1Hub · 5th May 2007

hi everyone, thanks for looking at my thread.

first off the gig is a 3 day live concert recording for a christian artist at a larger church 1500 seat auditorium. the plan is to capture the concerts for his next cd release. we will have similar set lists for each show so we can pick and choose to get the best performances. there will also be a tech rehersal the day before the first concert.

the input list

kick in
kick out
snare top
snare bot
tom 1
tom 2
tom 3
tom 4
oh L
oh R

10 total

bass mic
bass di

2 total

a gtr 1 di (artists)
a gtr 1 mic (artists)
a gtr 2 di
lead gtr 1 mic
e gtr 2 mic

5 total

clarinet spot
flute spot
trpt 1 spot
trpt 2 spot
bone spot
violins spot
cello spot
orchestra stereo pair

9 total

choir stereo pair (30 person choir)
background vocal 1
background vocal 2
background vocal 3
background vocal 4
lead vocal

7 total

stereo room pair

2 total

grand total of 35 inputs

the artist wants the project delivered in protools sessions.

so heres what i am thinking about doing. renting a digidesign venue and an hd3 rig to track it. i would still use better preamps and converters for key inputs like lead vocals ect. we would use the venue to replace the front of house console and replace the current monitoring system. i love alot of the features that the venue gives us. they have 2 consoles installed at the church allready, yamaha 02R FOH, mackie 8 buss mon/recording neither of wich the Artist or myself have any intention of using for this.

the only draw backs to this is that i would have to run sound as well as the recording. i make less money because of the higher price of renting the venue compared to renting just recording gear.

so the question is can you guys think of better ways of doing this. a remote truck is out of the budget sorry.

thanks

aaron

**Remoteness** · 6th May 2007

Why don't you just setup a recorder off the FOH desk or split the mics at FOH into quality mic pres straight to the recorder/

If you use a HD recorder that can be transfered to a PT session you're getting everything you want and need without the big expense.

bishopthomas · 6th May 2007

I agree. Drop the Venue. Let the house deal with the house. I don't know how much Venues are renting for, but I feel certain that you can rent a splitter system and all outboard gear for less than the Venue. You don't need the features of the Venue. Now, if the house wants to rent the Venue anyway, then by all means let them pay for it and see if it's okay to interface your ProTools rig.

Jim vanBergen · 6th May 2007

You've gotten excellent advice. Split the mics & use dedicated preamps for the recording, (or use direct outs IF the house desk is really good sonically and has pre fader, pre-EQ direct outs) and do a 48-ch recording while you mix live. Import the drives to a PT session afterwards. Inexpensive & easy, at least, to me!

Next option: rent an HD3 rig by itself and record straight to that, while you mix live.

Ronnie Dixon · 9th May 2007

This does ssem to be the better option.By me at the least.

Quote:

Next option: rent an HD3 rig by itself and record straight to that, while you mix live.

5th May 2007	#1
the1Hub Gear addict Joined: Feb 2005 Location: where there are blue skies 315 days a year Posts: 460 Thread Starter	other options for recording live concerts hi everyone, thanks for looking at my thread. first off the gig is a 3 day live concert recording for a christian artist at a larger church 1500 seat auditorium. the plan is to capture the concerts for his next cd release. we will have similar set lists for each show so we can pick and choose to get the best performances. there will also be a tech rehersal the day before the first concert. the input list kick in kick out snare top snare bot tom 1 tom 2 tom 3 tom 4 oh L oh R 10 total bass mic bass di 2 total a gtr 1 di (artists) a gtr 1 mic (artists) a gtr 2 di lead gtr 1 mic e gtr 2 mic 5 total clarinet spot flute spot trpt 1 spot trpt 2 spot bone spot violins spot cello spot orchestra stereo pair 9 total choir stereo pair (30 person choir) background vocal 1 background vocal 2 background vocal 3 background vocal 4 lead vocal 7 total stereo room pair 2 total grand total of 35 inputs the artist wants the project delivered in protools sessions. so heres what i am thinking about doing. renting a digidesign venue and an hd3 rig to track it. i would still use better preamps and converters for key inputs like lead vocals ect. we would use the venue to replace the front of house console and replace the current monitoring system. i love alot of the features that the venue gives us. they have 2 consoles installed at the church allready, yamaha 02R FOH, mackie 8 buss mon/recording neither of wich the Artist or myself have any intention of using for this. the only draw backs to this is that i would have to run sound as well as the recording. i make less money because of the higher price of renting the venue compared to renting just recording gear. so the question is can you guys think of better ways of doing this. a remote truck is out of the budget sorry. thanks aaron

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bishopthomas Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,565	I agree. Drop the Venue. Let the house deal with the house. I don't know how much Venues are renting for, but I feel certain that you can rent a splitter system and all outboard gear for less than the Venue. You don't need the features of the Venue. Now, if the house wants to rent the Venue anyway, then by all means let them pay for it and see if it's okay to interface your ProTools rig.

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Jim vanBergen Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2005 Location: New York Friggin' City Posts: 2,562	You've gotten excellent advice. Split the mics & use dedicated preamps for the recording, (or use direct outs IF the house desk is really good sonically and has pre fader, pre-EQ direct outs) and do a 48-ch recording while you mix live. Import the drives to a PT session afterwards. Inexpensive & easy, at least, to me! Next option: rent an HD3 rig by itself and record straight to that, while you mix live.