DAV BG-2 vs. Crookwood Painpot (also including Pendulum & Millennia)

[Plush]

Sorry I have not heard the Crookwood a/d converter.
I just use the mic amps line level back to an analog console or direct into the recorder.
Sometimes it's an analog tape recorder.

With Crispin choosing the a/d converter, you can bet it will be a high quality unit.

[mosrite]

Sorry I have not heard the Crookwood a/d converter.
I just use the mic amps line level back to an analog console or direct into the recorder.
Sometimes it's an analog tape recorder.

With Crispin choosing the a/d converter, you can bet it will be a high quality unit.

Cheers anyway Plush.

I should have a demo Crookwood to try soon.

I've been testing the DAV today. The musician I was working with said it had a pleasant sound but imparted a kind of 'husk' to the recording. The Amek, by contrast, sounded totally clear but not in anyway sterile. The higher registers especially just seem to sound so sweet with the Amek.

[aracu]

I believe that the Crookwood (preamp) converts A/D at only one frequency and has a built in sample rate converter. So in theory you could end up getting some extra audio processing, which doesn't seem like a good idea.

[mosrite]

I believe that the Crookwood (preamp) converts A/D at only one frequency and has a built in sample rate converter. So in theory you could end up getting some extra audio processing, which doesn't seem like a good idea.

Ohhh. Guess that's ASRC then?

[Plush]

What is written above about sampling rate converter adc is not correct.

The fact of the matter is that most high quality a/d conversion parts (chips) function at one chosen frequency.

This means that a sample rate converter needs to be used after the chip to go to the desired clock rate. Chips working at 192kHz are common.

These chips are in all kinds of equipment.

The difference is that this conversion is happening before the encoding of the signal, and is not analogous to poor quality sample rate conversion common in cheap gear or poorly checked software.

[aracu]

Interesting, I see your point. My advice was out of context, due to a concept
conditioned from how conversion relates to software.

[huarez]

Originally Posted by ISedlacek

Being still opened to a preamp sound improvement (DAV is nice, but still ...), today finally the "Grammy winning" Crookwood preamp" arrived here for testing:

It is also available in the rack body with remote control:

I did some preliminary AB shots of bamboo flute and monochord (my favourite testing instrument, since the mics/instrument position is 100% fixed and the sound spectrum is very rich). I also added Pendulum and Millennia HV-3 monochord samples.
As usually , when something interesting arrives here, I happen to be very busy outside ... :-)) More samples may follow in the evening.

Mics: Schoeps MK2, AD Lavry Blue. This time the samples are 100% raw, no reverb, nothing ... so the overal sound is a bit modest but maybe good for the purpose ...



Monochord:

Crookwood

DAV

Pendulum

Millennia


Bamboo flute:

Crookwood

DAV

The croockwood is featuring the high frequencys a lot, and for me it sounds a little unpleasant. For me this is very interesting , because it shows me , how different the same sound can heard by different induviduals.

[ISedlacek]

Originally Posted by huarez

For me this is very interesting , because it shows me , how different the same sound can heard by different induviduals.

Nice digging of the old thread )

You may then also find interesting these samples of another preamps featuring the same instrument (monochord)

ADesigns Pacifica

Crane Song Flamingo

Millennia HV-3

Forssell Fetcode

Forssell SMP-2

(nothing new, already posted long time ago)

I also had Lavry mic pre sample, but cannot find it now ...

[I LOVE YOU]

Can anybody get me a Paintpot to compare to my Gordons here across the pond?