Auto-tune on Billy Joel @ Super Bowl - Page 2

BrianT · 5th February 2007

Tho' it's been said, many times...many ways

Billy Joel sucks..........needs tune

(to the tune of Merry Christmas)

RoundBadge · 5th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bdiggy

I'm 44 and I'm wearing out my wife and the maid so don't be age prejudice.

Ha Ha..Right onthumbsup
..Well I'm 44 too and my wife is 26.

RoundBadge · 5th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by deegone

just have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWQO1EdeBls

Yeah..Arrogance and autotune don't mix too well..grumpy old prick

FinishMedia · 5th February 2007

i posted on the other thread, but i'd like to reiterate...am i crazy? billy joel doesn't get the choice as to whether they use auto-tune or not? i mean...REALLY? that seems to me like if someone threw a behringer guitar amp on stage and told ted nugent to deal with it...

so...people get forced to use auto-tune huh? man, this world really sucks if a guy with that track record doesn't have the choice of whether he wants to sound like a robot or not...

i'm also shocked that a bunch of gear heads would blame engineers! c'mon guys....blame the artist!

ehhe

FinishMedia · 5th February 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7qnM...elated&search=

ummm...maybe he does need it?

nd33 · 5th February 2007

I saw Billy Joel in concert last year. No sign of autotune there.

It's pretty ridiculous doing that to a performer who has been playin since long before this technology even existed!

If it was paris hilton, yeah! But come on!

Thank god I didn't start watching til half time.
_

themn · 5th February 2007

Praise the Lord for GS.

I kept thinking, "why is an old pro like Billy Joel sounding this off ?"

The fly-over at the end was perfect though !

mastermix · 5th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by nd33

Thank god I didn't start watching til half time.

Did the same here. I started watching at the halftime show and didn't even know about Billy Joel until this morning... man!!!

Just watched the YouTube...

Bdiggy · 6th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

Ha Ha..Right onthumbsup
..Well I'm 44 too and my wife is 26.

You got me there

theblue1 · 6th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by d_fu

Can anyone post a sample?

Search Youtube for "billy joel superbowl" -- you'll find it.

But -- even if you're not a Billy Joel fan you'll probably be sorry you did. (Unless you need a good schadenfreude-driven belly laugh.

)

uncle duncan · 6th February 2007

Why do they even bother having men sing at sporting events? Belinda Carlisle, with the incredible receding miniskirt, Lucy Lawless, with the incredible topless top, and Taylor Swift, with the incredible voice, all kicked the sh** out of Billy Joel. But his piano playing was nice.

gm5k · 7th February 2007

haha this thread is hilarious. i knew id find something on this.

i was watching it with my brother and i said "you hear how he sounds like a robot? that's a program called autotune they're using on him"

we cringed the whole way through... i'll take the puppy bowl over autotuned billy joel any day!

Trebor Flow · 7th February 2007

Oh get over it -

Listen to the mans music over the last 30 odd years. Amazing. Lullaby (Good Night My Angel) still brings tears to my eyes when I look at my kids and it's playing.

He's not spent his life "talking small talk" on blogs and forums - he's been out there writing part of the American song book.

Big deal some (dick brain engineer) who Billy has never met and never will - (the person to blame probably reads this forum) used auto-tune and set it wrong.

Joel like a pro sang through the problem and didn't look even slightly phased infront of 90 million people - I would of gone to pieces and crapped my pants.

He didn't give a shit he's has nothing to prove. Nothing. Especially not to people like you!

This thread is DEFINATLEY the worse side of Gearslutz.

in a word pathetic, childish thread. dfegad

Trebor

AlexLakis · 7th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebor Flow

This thread is DEFINATLEY the worse side of Gearslutz.

in a word pathetic, childish thread. dfegad

Trebor

Just so you know, I originally posted this thread in the Moan Zone, it wasn't moved here. So, number 1, if you ain't here to moan, bugger off (although I suppose "counter-moaning" counts.)

So, we witness possibly the worst display of public auto-tuning in history on the biggest television event of the year, and we're not supposed to discuss it here on Gearslutz?

For many, this fiasco was a good learning tool. It displayed the extent of damage improper usage of auto-tune could do, and I'm sure many engineers learned something from watching the video under scrutiny.

I would consider it a feat if anybody here is a bigger Billy Joel fan than I am. I think he's the greatest songwriter of all time. Perhaps that's why I was so pissed off when I heard him being butchered by auto-tune.

We flame a lot of "big" names on here. Why? Cuz we know they don't give a shit about what we think! If anything, it's a testiment to their greatness. Most of the comments on here are meant to be taken in a technical or professional manner, even if they aren't worded as such. "That Avril Lavigne bitch deserves to die" is probably not something I would say if I knew actually knew her. But that's how I feel about "the character she plays on TV." It's the nature of the beast; Nothing personal.

As far as the poor engineer who did it, well, we all make mistakes, but if I slipped on a banana peel and fell on my face while my pants fell down and a bird was crapping on my head, I wouldn't hold it against even the most decent of people to point and laugh. It is what it is.

max cooper · 7th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bdiggy

I'm 44 and I'm wearing out my wife and the maid so don't be age prejudice.

That's funny, I'm wearing them out too!

frugalpole · 7th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinishMedia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7qnM...elated&search=

ummm...maybe he does need it?

i would rather hear that than autotune.

drmmrboy · 7th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by frugalpole

i would rather hear that than autotune.

Me too. Made me raise an eyebrow or 2, but the SB made me *

*

jtg · 7th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebor Flow

[bHe didn't give a shit he's has nothing to prove. [/b]Nothing. Especially not to people like you!

This thread is DEFINATLEY the worse side of Gearslutz.

in a word pathetic, childish thread. dfegad

Then why do you?

You're taking a public discussion of the technical aspects surrounding someones performance WAY too personal.

Judging by his interview, if he had a GS account, he would come on here posting something like "haha that was kind of ****ed up, I sounded like a robot!"

zboy2854 · 7th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebor Flow

Oh get over it -

Listen to the mans music over the last 30 odd years. Amazing. Lullaby (Good Night My Angel) still brings tears to my eyes when I look at my kids and it's playing.

He's not spent his life "talking small talk" on blogs and forums - he's been out there writing part of the American song book.

First of all buttercup, no one is saying a lousy/f'ed up performance at the SB has ANYTHING to do with his previous body of work. In fact, it could be said that BECAUSE he has such an impressive body of work that we as fans/listeners had higher expectations from him. We might expect bad autotuning if it was Ashlee Simpson singing the national anthem, but not Billy.

Quote:

Big deal some (dick brain engineer) who Billy has never met and never will - (the person to blame probably reads this forum) used auto-tune and set it wrong.

Wow. You really think that an artist of Billy Joel's stature who is about to sing in front of a billion viewers isn't aware of every aspect of his performance, including who his engineer is and what they're using on him? Thanks for playing, try again.

Quote:

Joel like a pro sang through the problem and didn't look even slightly phased infront of 90 million people - I would of gone to pieces and crapped my pants.

He didn't give a shit he's has nothing to prove. Nothing. Especially not to people like you!

No one here said he DID have anything to prove to us. So does that mean, o Holier Than Thou, that we're not allowed to comment on the performance, even if it was bad? You obviously choose to ignore all the threads where people praise or rave about good performances.

Quote:

This thread is DEFINATLEY the worse side of Gearslutz.

in a word pathetic, childish thread. dfegad

Trebor

And yet here you are posting with the rest of us...

Bdiggy · 7th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebor Flow

Oh get over it -

Listen to the mans music over the last 30 odd years. Amazing. Lullaby (Good Night My Angel) still brings tears to my eyes when I look at my kids and it's playing.

He's not spent his life "talking small talk" on blogs and forums - he's been out there writing part of the American song book.

Big deal some (dick brain engineer) who Billy has never met and never will - (the person to blame probably reads this forum) used auto-tune and set it wrong.

Joel like a pro sang through the problem and didn't look even slightly phased infront of 90 million people - I would of gone to pieces and crapped my pants.

He didn't give a shit he's has nothing to prove. Nothing. Especially not to people like you!

This thread is DEFINATLEY the worse side of Gearslutz.

in a word pathetic, childish thread. dfegad

Trebor

I would much rather listen to the man sing a little out of tune here and there than try to be a slick prick and fall on his arse... And as for your disdain for our opinions, you are completely entitled whether we agree or disagree. This is still a free country...for now anyway.

As far as having nothing to prove, I disagree. He's in the RnR hall of fame. He's supposed to be great. He wasn't. He has a responsibility and obligation to those that put him on that pedestal. He could have refused the induction if he felt he wasn't GREAT or WORTHY. Either you iz or you ain't. He won't and Prince WUZ. End of story.

Sometimes history is the best litany test of all. When this is looked upon through the eyes of history Prince will be remembered as a genious composer, phenomenal performer and musician... a true one of a kind trend setter and Billy... well he's in the RnR hall of fame right?

"Don't Go Changing"

Peace!

Snowcat · 8th February 2007

A little late to the party but just saw the YouTube clip...

I wonder if He believes in life after love...

Resonant Alien · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

Yeah..Arrogance and autotune don't mix too well..grumpy old prick

LOL....but you know, if I was that famous (which I'll never be), and had to answer a bunch of idiotic and ******** questions from the press like that (which I never will), I would probably be a little bit of a dikk myself.

RoundBadge · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resonant Alien

LOL....but you know, if I was that famous (which I'll never be), and had to answer a bunch of idiotic and ******** questions from the press like that (which I never will), I would probably be a little bit of a dikk myself.

True..what normal person wouldn't.

but celebs aren't "normal" are they?

But seriously, PR Comes w/ the job.
and this biz IS idiotic and ********
most overpaid celebs are smart about it, know this and play the game.
Not a high price condsidering the sick amounts of money these folks get paid.
Ive done my fair share of press junket stuff in my 20 plus years in this biz.
I shed NO tears for the high maintianence celebs who are bitchy about doing press..
I do a lot of film/TV stuff..ive seen an actress/ model get a 1 mil paycheck for 2 days work on a shampoo commercial and still bitch about everything ie: the long hours[10 hour days..boo hoo.]all the while being treated like the pilled up little princess that she was.[rehab shortly thereafter].
pretty typical.
i deal w/ these types almost weekly.
.. many are spoiled little pouty babies and act thusly.
Many are very nice..humble,courteous,professional,etc too.
Laughable actually,but not so funny when you see the ridiculous amounts of money being thrown at them.
sorry to sound jaded,but many times i don't want to meet my heros.

Boo Hoo,poor Billy had to do a whole 10 minutes of press.

Actually, he's probably at the golf Course/Country club hangin w/ his hot young wife laughing his ass off all the way to the bank..

stevep · 8th February 2007

Quote:

I do a lot of film/TV stuff..ive seen an actress/ model get a 1 mil paycheck for 2 days work on a shampoo commercial and still bitch about everything ie: the long hours[10 hour days..boo hoo.]all the while being treated like the pilled up little princess that she was.[rehab shortly thereafter].

LoL ...

classic,

You just made my day !

does anyone have a link to his super bowl train wreck ?

i was in sessions and missed the whole thing...........

AlexLakis · 8th February 2007

Hey, hey, give the guy a break. I mean, he DID say he was too old to rock n' roll and turned to composing classical music and having some young asian guy play it! I'm surprised he didn't show up to the Super Bowl with him on a collar chain and just rock the solo vocals.

Richard Joo is awesome, by the way.

P.S. Steve, there's a few threads floating around with the YouTube link.

JulianBrightnes · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by themn

Praise the Lord for GS.

I kept thinking, "why is an old pro like Billy Joel sounding this off ?"

The fly-over at the end was perfect though !

that fly-over would have suited the 1936 Olympics just fine!

Land of the free????

Bdiggy · 8th February 2007

[QUOTE I mean, he DID say he was too old to rock n' roll[/QUOTE]

I guees the Stones didn't get that memo from TAPBA "The Age Prejudice Bigots of America".

Bdiggy · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulianBrightnes

that fly-over would have suited the 1936 Olympics just fine!

Land of the free????

Yes Julian and in this case he was FREE to make an ass of himself in front of a billion people. THAT IS FREEDOM!!!. fuuck

This is not the proper forum section to have a global political debate. Go to the Gear Free Zone and critisize the greatest free
country in the world (USA) there.

Peace

AlexLakis · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bdiggy

I guees the Stones didn't get that memo from TAPBA "The Age Prejudice Bigots of America".

Is Ian Anderson president?

theblue1 · 8th February 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trebor Flow

Oh get over it -

Listen to the mans music over the last 30 odd years. Amazing. Lullaby (Good Night My Angel) still brings tears to my eyes when I look at my kids and it's playing.

He's not spent his life "talking small talk" on blogs and forums - he's been out there writing part of the American song book.

Big deal some (dick brain engineer) who Billy has never met and never will - (the person to blame probably reads this forum) used auto-tune and set it wrong.

Joel like a pro sang through the problem and didn't look even slightly phased infront of 90 million people - I would of gone to pieces and crapped my pants.

He didn't give a shit he's has nothing to prove. Nothing. Especially not to people like you!

This thread is DEFINATLEY the worse side of Gearslutz.

in a word pathetic, childish thread. dfegad

Trebor

Ha ha.

THIS is the kind of thing that makes people think BJ fans are... what's the charitable word for it?

Mmm... never mind.

But one thing -- you think someone just made a decision to use Auto-tune on BJ without ASKING him? That IS amusing.

PS... I will agree on one thing... he appeared to take the problems like a trooper.

5th February 2007	#31
BrianT Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,816	Tho' it's been said, many times...many ways Billy Joel sucks..........needs tune (to the tune of Merry Christmas) __________________ Regards, Brian T

6th February 2007	#41
uncle duncan Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,585	Why do they even bother having men sing at sporting events? Belinda Carlisle, with the incredible receding miniskirt, Lucy Lawless, with the incredible topless top, and Taylor Swift, with the incredible voice, all kicked the sh** out of Billy Joel. But his piano playing was nice. __________________ "You're either with a native DAW, or you're with the terrorists." G.W. Busch Lite

7th February 2007	#42
gm5k Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,956	haha this thread is hilarious. i knew id find something on this. i was watching it with my brother and i said "you hear how he sounds like a robot? that's a program called autotune they're using on him" we cringed the whole way through... i'll take the puppy bowl over autotuned billy joel any day! __________________ "i have extra money and i have two chances, the first is ****ing strippers women, in an incredible party, and the other is get a lachapell preamp... " -a gearslut

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5th February 2007	#34
FinishMedia Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: brooklyn, ny Posts: 75	i posted on the other thread, but i'd like to reiterate...am i crazy? billy joel doesn't get the choice as to whether they use auto-tune or not? i mean...REALLY? that seems to me like if someone threw a behringer guitar amp on stage and told ted nugent to deal with it... so...people get forced to use auto-tune huh? man, this world really sucks if a guy with that track record doesn't have the choice of whether he wants to sound like a robot or not... i'm also shocked that a bunch of gear heads would blame engineers! c'mon guys....blame the artist! ehhe

5th February 2007	#36
nd33 Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 268	I saw Billy Joel in concert last year. No sign of autotune there. It's pretty ridiculous doing that to a performer who has been playin since long before this technology even existed! If it was paris hilton, yeah! But come on! Thank god I didn't start watching til half time. _

5th February 2007	#37
themn Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 48	Praise the Lord for GS. I kept thinking, "why is an old pro like Billy Joel sounding this off ?" The fly-over at the end was perfect though !

7th February 2007	#43
Trebor Flow Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 523	Oh get over it - Listen to the mans music over the last 30 odd years. Amazing. Lullaby (Good Night My Angel) still brings tears to my eyes when I look at my kids and it's playing. He's not spent his life "talking small talk" on blogs and forums - he's been out there writing part of the American song book. Big deal some (dick brain engineer) who Billy has never met and never will - (the person to blame probably reads this forum) used auto-tune and set it wrong. Joel like a pro sang through the problem and didn't look even slightly phased infront of 90 million people - I would of gone to pieces and crapped my pants. He didn't give a shit he's has nothing to prove. Nothing. Especially not to people like you! This thread is DEFINATLEY the worse side of Gearslutz. in a word pathetic, childish thread. dfegad Trebor

8th February 2007	#51
Snowcat Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 6	A little late to the party but just saw the YouTube clip... I wonder if He believes in life after love...

8th February 2007	#55
AlexLakis Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD/L.A. Posts: 3,631 Thread Starter	Hey, hey, give the guy a break. I mean, he DID say he was too old to rock n' roll and turned to composing classical music and having some young asian guy play it! I'm surprised he didn't show up to the Super Bowl with him on a collar chain and just rock the solo vocals. Richard Joo is awesome, by the way. P.S. Steve, there's a few threads floating around with the YouTube link.

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Bdiggy Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: VA. Posts: 4,597	[QUOTE I mean, he DID say he was too old to rock n' roll[/QUOTE] I guees the Stones didn't get that memo from TAPBA "The Age Prejudice Bigots of America".