Good quality standalone MS decoder?

hughesmr · 10th January 2007

Any recommendations? Not looking to break the bank...

Recording David · 10th January 2007

www.peterengh.com

5down1up · 10th January 2007

looks more like an encoder ? but very handy

the dangerous decoder : would like to get it as well ... but this would defenately break the bank

might be wrong ! encoding = 2 Signals to stereo without the need of another phase reversed channel ?
decoding = back from stereo to ms for mastering purpose etc. ?

i am confused :-)

fifthcircle · 11th January 2007

How about 3 channels on the DAW or 3 channels on a console with a phase reverse y-cable?

Otherwise, AEA used to sell a stand-alone M-S decoder. Millennia also sells one. Don't know about prices.

--Ben

Jim vanBergen · 11th January 2007

Yeah, AEA's is good, I have one, used it on a few projects...works well. But I have not tried the Millenia. Wes stopped making them and a bunch of other products when they went full-tilt into ribbon manufacturing. It's strange, because M-S sounds great.

c.gymer · 25th February 2007

Sorry this is late, I only just came across the post looking for something else.

Go to www.electrical.com, visit the forums and send their tech Greg a message. He's building an Electrical Audio m&s decoder that should be publicly available in the not too distant future. You can buy early run models now, but there not cheap (about $1000 I think). If your after a hardware decoder I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better one these days without buying the Soundfield decoder which is closer to $3000!

Probably one of the sexyist looking things you could ever put in a rack.

davebl@dircon.c · 25th February 2007

M + S = A
M - S = B

or

A + B = M
A - B = S

In this equasion A + left and B = Right.

Its easy to build with a couple of suitable transformers as a passive unit so its bi-directional, if you like transformers that is.

There's a usefull chart about DMS on the Schoeps site if your interested in that too.

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hughesmr Lives for gear Joined: May 2006 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 545 Thread Starter	Good quality standalone MS decoder? Any recommendations? Not looking to break the bank...

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5down1up Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 2,006	looks more like an encoder ? but very handy the dangerous decoder : would like to get it as well ... but this would defenately break the bank might be wrong ! encoding = 2 Signals to stereo without the need of another phase reversed channel ? decoding = back from stereo to ms for mastering purpose etc. ? i am confused :-) __________________ http://www.kaiportolano.com http://www.myspace.com/kaiportolano

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fifthcircle Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,323	How about 3 channels on the DAW or 3 channels on a console with a phase reverse y-cable? Otherwise, AEA used to sell a stand-alone M-S decoder. Millennia also sells one. Don't know about prices. --Ben __________________ Benjamin Maas Fifth Circle Audio Long Beach, CA http://www.fifthcircle.com

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c.gymer Gear maniac Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 220	Sorry this is late, I only just came across the post looking for something else. Go to www.electrical.com, visit the forums and send their tech Greg a message. He's building an Electrical Audio m&s decoder that should be publicly available in the not too distant future. You can buy early run models now, but there not cheap (about $1000 I think). If your after a hardware decoder I think you'd be hard pressed to find a better one these days without buying the Soundfield decoder which is closer to $3000! Probably one of the sexyist looking things you could ever put in a rack. __________________ Christopher J Gymer http://www.myspace.com/thefieldrecordingcompany

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Recording David Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 946	www.peterengh.com

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Jim vanBergen Lives for gear Joined: Apr 2005 Location: New York Friggin' City Posts: 2,562	Yeah, AEA's is good, I have one, used it on a few projects...works well. But I have not tried the Millenia. Wes stopped making them and a bunch of other products when they went full-tilt into ribbon manufacturing. It's strange, because M-S sounds great.

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davebl@dircon.c Gear maniac Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 277	M + S = A M - S = B or A + B = M A - B = S In this equasion A + left and B = Right. Its easy to build with a couple of suitable transformers as a passive unit so its bi-directional, if you like transformers that is. There's a usefull chart about DMS on the Schoeps site if your interested in that too.

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