$2,000 for a new mic

[johnwy]

I have used a U87 for years on rap and r&b. I have sometimes used a Microtech Gefell um92s some years ago and thought it was nice as well, although I forgot how much it was. You may want to also check out the Audio Technica AT4060, which is a tube mike and may be good for your price range. Although I would like to try it, the Neumann tlm 49 seems to be a nice buy.. anyone try it yet?

[Nu Mixer]

Last year a friend loaned me his U87 (one of the newer models) and honestly I preferred the TLM103! I know it sounds crazy, but I tested it on 2 rappers and a female singer and we all liked the 103 better.

I just found a post suggesting the Pearlman TM1, so I'm definitely adding that to my list.

Anyone here recommend any of the Charter Oaks or Peluso line?

[azwun25]

Peluso 2247 LE murders the TLM103 for sure. So does the Soundelux Ifet 7 and the Charter Oak SA538. The SA538B was a little bright for my taste

[johnwy]

Originally Posted by Nu Mixer

Last year a friend loaned me his U87 (one of the newer models) and honestly I preferred the TLM103! I know it sounds crazy, but I tested it on 2 rappers and a female singer and we all liked the 103 better.

Well you have your answer then. It doesn't sound crazy to me.....

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by azwun25

Peluso 2247 LE murders the TLM103 for sure.

Agreed.

Nu Mixer, do you have a sample of the vocalist you would be using this on? I could probably help you narrow down your search. I have had good luck with the Peluso 47 LE, and 251 on rappers and R&B singers. The P12 is also a really nice mic, that could be considered the most versatile.

What kind of sound are you looking for? Modern & airy? Big & dark?

Also, where you will be tracking the vocals? Small vocal booth, large live room, bedroom, basement, etc?

[Nu Mixer]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Do you have a sample of the vocalist you would be using this on? I could probably help you narrow down your search. I have had good luck with the Peluso 47 LE, and 251 on rappers and R&B singers. The P12 is also a really nice mic, that could be considered the most versatile. What kind of sound are you looking for? Modern & airy? Big & dark? Also, where you will be tracking the vocals? Small vocal booth, large live room, bedroom, basement, etc?

Here's some more details: I record vocals in a small booth. Looking for something that's modern and airy-- like the C800G. I would also like something that is versatile and would compliment my 103. Most all of my tracking sessions are female pop and R&B singers (no screamers, no jazz) and rappers.

I will attach a short sample. The chain is 103-->737-->Rosetta200-->PT. I could use an honest assessment of how the vocals are sounding (sonically) and what I could expect in terms of improvement.

[disclaimer: this is an unfinished demo and these are just scratch vocals, that's why the doubles aren't tight, etc.]

Also, based on this sample, do you think a Distressor could offer substantial improvement?

Thanks, guys!

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Nu Mixer

Here's some more details: I record vocals in a small booth. Looking for something that's modern and airy-- like the C800G. I would also like something that is versatile and would compliment my 103. Most all of my tracking sessions are female pop and R&B singers (no screamers, no jazz) and rappers.

I will attach a short sample. The chain is 103-->737-->Rosetta200-->PT
I could use an honest assessment of how the vocals are sounding and what I could expect in terms of improvement.

Also, based on that sample, do you think a Distressor could offer substantial improvement?

Thanks, guys!

[note: these are just scratch vocals, that's why the doubles aren't tight, etc.]

I'm not in the studio right now, so I can't really give you any feedback on the quality of the vocal tonight.

Well, the 22 47 LE is a great mic for hip hop vocals... but knowing the sound you're after, I would recommend you check out the Peluso 251 before you do ANYTHING else..

It's a great mic. It is a bright microphone, yet it never seems to get harsh. It has that modern, airy C800G-ish top end.... and it's the only thing right now that gives that sound in this price range. Plus, you can stack R&B (& pop) vocals for days, and never get any weird midrange build-up(which can be an issue with some mics in small booths). For rappers, it's especially effective on rappers you tend to double track. You'll find yourself using less EQ, and getting a great sound with just a little bit of compression.

I can send you some samples I've recorded with the 251 in a small booth (with no EQ and just a little bit of compression), if you'd like to hear them.

[DAH]

Tony, i`d like to get those samples too. Is it possible to order those Peluso in Russia?

[upscaps]

2247le has become new favorite vocal mic over the past month or so.

[jazzy655]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

I'm not in the studio right now, so I can't really give you any feedback on the quality of the vocal tonight.

Well, the 22 47 LE is a great mic for hip hop vocals... but knowing the sound you're after, I would recommend you check out the Peluso 251 before you do ANYTHING else..

It's a great mic. It is a bright microphone, yet it never seems to get harsh. It has that modern, airy C800G-ish top end.... and it's the only thing right now that gives that sound in this price range. Plus, you can stack R&B (& pop) vocals for days, and never get any weird midrange build-up(which can be an issue with some mics in small booths). For rappers, it's especially effective on rappers you tend to double track. You'll find yourself using less EQ, and getting a great sound with just a little bit of compression.

I can send you some samples I've recorded with the 251 in a small booth (with no EQ and just a little bit of compression), if you'd like to hear them.

hey tony, i'd love to hear those samples. i'm looking to audition the 2247 le and the 251. i pm'd you a while back about the pearlmann but never heard from you. i guess you dont carry them.

anywho, if you've got some time check out http://www.myspace.com/somobe cause thats the voice i'll be recording. i'm using a brauner phantom c right now and its just too bright. i'm looking for a solid sound thats not dark, but not really bright either. i just want big vocals. let me know if you have any suggestions

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by DAH

Tony, i`d like to get those samples too. Is it possible to order those Peluso in Russia?

We ship internationally all the time.. I can send pretty much anything you would need overseas.

Email me at: tony@highprofileaudio.com and I'll send you some samples.

Originally Posted by jazzy655

hey tony, i'd love to hear those samples. i'm looking to audition the 2247 le and the 251. i pm'd you a while back about the pearlmann but never heard from you. i guess you dont carry them.

anywho, if you've got some time check out http://www.myspace.com/somobe cause thats the voice i'll be recording. i'm using a brauner phantom c right now and its just too bright. i'm looking for a solid sound thats not dark, but not really bright either. i just want big vocals. let me know if you have any suggestions

Sorry about that... PM's are tough for me to keep track of sometimes.

Email me at: tony@highprofileaudio.com and I can hit you back with some samples. I think you would probably like the Pearlman TM-1, or 22 47LE if you are looking for more of a full bodied, "bigger" sound.

[Nu Mixer]

Thanks to Tony and everyone else. I have some great options-- looking forward to checking them out.

[partnering]

nice track vocals sound really good i like it

[Nu Mixer]

Originally Posted by partnering

nice track vocals sound really good i like it

Thanks for the compliment. I'm hoping a new mic will take me to the next level!

Or should I get a Distressor?

[Tim L]

It's more than a good idea to check out the Lawson mic's... in this price range I don't feel there's a better value out there. The ability to swap out capsules (L47 or L251) and or electronics (tube or FET) alone is pretty killer!

I've had my L47MPmkII for a few years now and love this mic more and more each time I set the thing up! I love the lush yet articulate way this mic captures a source ... seems like it really reaches out into the sound field in a very three dimensional sorta' way. The 103 (?)... can't hold toilet paper for the Lawson. I "dumped" mine a while ago!

I keep meaning to grab the L251FET... hmm Xmass present for self(?)... where's that "Lose girlfriend over gear" thread?

http://www.lawsonmicrophones.com/index.html

[Gregg Sartiano]

I'm not gonna recommend any mic in particular. Jeez, there are so many good ones out there...