Which new hip-hop tracks were mixed on a SSL XL 9000K console?

[RIZ Records]

Ive been trying to research but i cant really find any info on new hip-hop tracks that were mixed on a SSL XL 9000K console. I'd like to hear what a current hip-hop mix sounds like on these consoles.


If anybody knows please let me know id appreciate it.


Thx!

[Sirocco]

anything done @ the hit factory NYC while it was open..

..they had 3

[RIZ Records]

Can you be more specific with some tracks i dont know what was done at the hit factory NY. I'll try to search more but ive tried and only found a few , they sound like crap and are bad examples.


Thx.

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Sirocco

anything done @ the hit factory NYC while it was open..

..they had 3

Do you know when they bought those boards? By the time they put the K's in, most of the NY rapper's were already doing most of their work in Miami.

[Sirocco]

didnt know i just read about it

i read a lot

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by RIZ Records

Ive been trying to research but i cant really find any info on new hip-hop tracks that were mixed on a SSL XL 9000K console. I'd like to hear what a current hip-hop mix sounds like on these consoles.


If anybody knows please let me know id appreciate it.


Thx!

Not a total hiphop track but Beyonce's Crazy in Love was mixed by Tony Mas on a 9000K. I think he also did the Black Eyed Peas Elephunk on it as well.

And sorry to break the news to to you but you can't tell the sound of a console based on a record that it was mixed on.

All it tells you how great are the skills are of said mixer and Tony Mas has skills.

[cap217]

I know that the Hit Factory Miami has that board and Rick Ross's tracks done by Fabian were mixed on that. Also all the work Fabian does for Cash Money is on the SSL. So I assume Storchs tracks too.... but why does it matter what SSL?

[t.dizzle]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

And sorry to break the news to to you but you can't tell the sound of a console based on a record that it was mixed on.

Unless it's an 80 series Neve.

[Sirocco]

i can tell what is an ssl....if people abuse the highs just not what specific model

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Sirocco

i can tell what is an ssl....if people abuse the highs just not what specific model

No you can't.... You'd have to be a psychic.

Tell me which of the following were mixed on an SSL:

Cassidy - B Boy Stance

Ludacris - The Potion

Justin Timberlake - My Love

Jay-Z - 1-900-Hustler

Memphis Bleek - Like That

The only reason I know is because I was there for most of them...

[djui5]

Originally Posted by t.dizzle

Unless it's an 80 series Neve.

Or mixed by Andy Wallace

[Sirocco]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

No you can't.... You'd have to be a psychic.

Tell me which of the following were mixed on an SSL:

Cassidy - B Boy Stance

Ludacris - The Potion

Justin Timberlake - My Love

Jay-Z - 1-900-Hustler

Memphis Bleek - Like That

The only reason I know is because I was there for most of them...

when i boost the highs on my waves ssl vs any other (keep in mind i only use waves sonalksis and urs plugins)..it sounds a bit different to me....maybe its placebo since i paid so much.....

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Sirocco

when i boost the highs on my waves ssl vs any other (keep in mind i only use waves sonalksis and urs plugins)..it sounds a bit different to me....maybe its placebo since i paid so much.....

That's just an EQ plugin, though... it's not giving you the sound of a console.

[Sirocco]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

That's just an EQ plugin, though... it's not giving you the sound of a console.

i suppose you are right, i was thinking in a different light for some reason

[H-Rezz]

Fact of the matter is that it's getting increasingly hard to tell.......

I knew of Serban Ghenea' mixes back in the day with Teddy Riley on SSL consoles , i didn't keep up with his progress and his mix methods and just accepted it as a given that he mixed most of Usher" last record on and SSL....

Manny Marroquin(one of my fav mixers) also has a mix on the same record and i know he mixes on SSL till this day.....

Point being i love the sound of those mixes and never would have picked that Serban was mixing ITB on those until i read it , so here i am thinking that the only way to achieve that sound was by going outside the box which i had done till then for years , i cann't tell the difference between Manny's SSL mix on that record and Serbans ITB mixes......

It truly does come down to skill no matter the platform , knowing how to compensate for the downfall in either approach will only help you make up for it when you mix....

For example Serban to get a more analog sound throws digi's lo fi plug on certain instruments ...... OTB guys might have to keep hiss and noise levels from external gear to a minimum or mute channels not used to achieve an almost cleam ITB mix sound , although a bit of backround noise helps the songs in an organic way IMO only if it sounds natural and not over the top ...

[djui5]

Originally Posted by Sirocco

when i boost the highs on my waves ssl

[cap217]

Yea, its amazing how you spend a grand and you have an SSL at your finger tips!!!!! ARE YOU KIDDING>?????????????????????????

You can tell? In comparison yes, but to just hear something and say "thats an SSL, and to say thats an SSL 9000, not a 4K" You have to be crazy!

[chester]

Originally Posted by H-Rezz

Fact of the matter is that it's getting increasingly hard to tell.......

I knew of Serban Ghenea' mixes back in the day with Teddy Riley on SSL consoles , i didn't keep up with his progress and his mix methods and just accepted it as a given that he mixed most of Usher" last record on and SSL....

Manny Marroquin(one of my fav mixers) also has a mix on the same record and i know he mixes on SSL till this day.....

Point being i love the sound of those mixes and never would have picked that Serban was mixing ITB on those until i read it , so here i am thinking that the only way to achieve that sound was by going outside the box which i had done till then for years , i cann't tell the difference between Manny's SSL mix on that record and Serbans ITB mixes......

It truly does come down to skill no matter the platform , knowing how to compensate for the downfall in either approach will only help you make up for it when you mix....

For example Serban to get a more analog sound throws digi's lo fi plug on certain instruments ...... OTB guys might have to keep hiss and noise levels from external gear to a minimum or mute channels not used to achieve an almost cleam ITB mix sound , although a bit of backround noise helps the songs in an organic way IMO only if it sounds natural and not over the top ...

thats why i love the cranesong analog dither!

[Sirocco]

Originally Posted by cap217

Yea, its amazing how you spend a grand and you have an SSL at your finger tips!!!!! ARE YOU KIDDING>?????????????????????????

You can tell? In comparison yes, but to just hear something and say "thats an SSL, and to say thats an SSL 9000, not a 4K" You have to be crazy!

"i can tell what is an ssl....if people abuse the highs just not what specific model"

im not as crazy as you think

[djui5]

Originally Posted by Sirocco

im not as crazy as you think

It's not about being crazy, but have you ever worked on a real SSL console? I'm thinking you haven't, personally. I mean really mixed on one...not a 4hr lab session...

[Sirocco]

yes i have, rock records, as i intern (moving up little by little to mix engineer) at a local studio,...since i was 17 (just about 3 years)

[Sirocco]

then again....i only mixed on a neve once...and the other console i usually mix on is a Sony DMXR-100...so i dont know too much really

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Sirocco

yes i have, rock records, as i intern (moving up little by little to mix engineer) at a local studio,...since i was 17 (just about 3 years)

Cool... do you intern at Bennett Studios?

[Sirocco]

nope, right now im at a place called frankensound

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Sirocco

nope, right now im at a place called frankensound

Tell Frank Certo that Tony Belmont said Hi!

Give him my number... I set that studio up years ago!

[Sirocco]

small world thumbsup

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by t.dizzle

Unless it's an 80 series Neve.

Sorry not even.

[Docmattic]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

No you can't.... You'd have to be a psychic.

Tell me which of the following were mixed on an SSL:

Cassidy - B Boy Stance

Ludacris - The Potion

Justin Timberlake - My Love

Jay-Z - 1-900-Hustler

Memphis Bleek - Like That

The only reason I know is because I was there for most of them...

well my auras are telling me the memphis bleek track

I have no idea what the console sounds like...just felt like guessing.

[t.dizzle]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Sorry not even.

80 series Neves have an extremely distinct sound. It's very easy to tell when something has been mixed on them. Stuff that was recorded on the Neve and mixed on the SSL is pretty obvious, too because it doesn't sound quite the same as being done entirely on the Neve.

I'm speaking from a hard rock perspective. Maybe it's not as distinct for urban music (which I've never heard of an 80 series being used for). But for distorted electric guitars and loud drums, it's blatant. I could name off a rack of albums, produced by different people, that were mixed on these consoles and they all have that "sound" that one can only get from the Neve.

Last paragraph. http://mixonline.com/design/profiles...a_grapevine_4/

I don't believe that people seek out these consoles just because they look cool/retro.

[Methlab]

STP I think tracked on an 80's series and mixed on an SSL.

I just mentioned Stone Temple Pilots in the Rap forum...ban me now!!!!