inspiration to write on your own beats

[Gduron]

I've been having trouble completing songs that i produce my self... Anyone else having trouble ??... any tips... ??...

[LCD]

Don't even think about writing a song for a couple weeks... it'll come back to u when u least expect it...

[cynic one]

i have major trouble writing lyrics to my own tracks. i never think they're good enough.

you're not alone.

[Gduron]

Don't get me wrong... I love my beats... actually is funny cause right after i'm done with the beat i get alot of good ideas and thats usually when i record my chorus and first verse... but then i come back the next day for second verse and i cant get into the song again...

[cynic one]

Originally Posted by Gduron

Don't get me wrong... I love my beats... actually is funny cause right after i'm done with the beat i get alot of good ideas and thats usually when i record my chorus and first verse... but then i come back the next day for second verse and i cant get into the song again...

when i actually sit down to do a song...i finish it. i don't really do anything else until its done. that way you never loose the feel.

coming back the next day it's hard to get in the right frame of mind.

[jikky]

Lol I used to have the same problem. Now I just let the songs come to me. Anywhere I am at, if I get the urge I will type in my treo, write on a receipt, in my class note pad. If I get the urge, whereever I am i get my lines down. Don't wanna lose the invaluable classics that the mind springs on you. Just go hit up a club and get a way from the tedious things. Relaxation is the key, for me anyway. Loosen up and let it come to you.

[cynic one]

Originally Posted by jikkyboy11

Lol I used to have the same problem. Now I just let the songs come to me. Anywhere I am at, if I get the urge I will type in my treo, write on a receipt, in my class note pad. If I get the urge, whereever I am i get my lines down. Don't wanna lose the invaluable classics that the mind springs on you. Just go hit up a club and get a way from the tedious things. Relaxation is the key, for me anyway. Loosen up and let it come to you.

you ever use the little sound recorder on the treo? i've been just freestyling into mine in the car....

[milza]

i freestyle melodylines into my mobile phone. the next step will be, recording them into melodyne and exporting them into cubase as midi. maybe this is the sad future. everyone just sings melodies into an application or called instrument and it converts the melody in realtime into midi for your softsampler. this is the future, native instruments wake up and make some money

[Osten Powers]

Wait for a good moment and mood! I make my own beats and rap about it...sometimes I wrote on 5 tracks at the same time! If you can't hear the beat anymore, write on a beat of an other producer, which has the same mood and tempo!

Peace CHS aka Osten Powers

[ShaneFontane]

lyrics or beats, doesn't matter what comes first as long as it paints a picture in my head... i then get in the studio and continue to transcribe that image/experience/scene etc into music and/or words...

for me, this is the way:
pretend. visualize. musically illustrate.
pretend. visualize. verbally illustrate.

Being an artist is not an "on and off" thing. To me, you either are or you're not. If you're not, then you may write music (even really great music) just to write and enjoy yourself BUT if you are an artist you have a vision that you live and you are simply compelled to create this vision that you have and put it into your medium of choice (music) to help others see this vision you may have. Being an artist is a lifestyle not a job

Find yourself and you will find a forever deep pool of inspiration

[Gduron]

thanx for the feedback everyone...

[brian_delizza]

"Once you've found who you are, your music will have the form of you" - Bob Palmer

[ShaneFontane]

Originally Posted by brian_delizza

girlfriend sees avedis E27: "Looks like another boring knobby thing to me"

hahaha... that's kinda like what my fiance said when she seen the moog and omega - "great. more expensive blinking lights."

[cynic one]

i like this one........"you say your studio is done but why do you keep buying shit? it's always another microphone or another keyboard"

[ShaneFontane]

Originally Posted by cynic

i like this one........"you say your studio is done but why do you keep buying shit? it's always another microphone or another keyboard"

hahahahaha... classic!

[DaKid]

Vodka.

[Superglue]

Vodka...word, in the a.m hours.

[illynoise]

1. Rule number one.... come up with the hook first, no matter what.
   don't just put spits up to a beat, that doesn't make sense to me. write something completely new and write something that compliments your hook.
   
2. Rule number two.... edit on the computer, this makes your life easier, you can control breathing sequencing better as well.
   
3. Rule number three... don't listen to a beat that you just wrote, they are always hot at that time, but maybe this should be rule 1.
   
4. Rule number four.... there aren't any rules in rap music. Do whatever the hell you want to do, your a rapper!

Good Luck,

BaseJase

[NAJI]

J what do you meen when you say don't listen to a beat you just made?

[brian_delizza]

Seriously, some of my best tracks have come from beats that I "just made."

Thats me though.

[jikky]

Originally Posted by cynic

you ever use the little sound recorder on the treo? i've been just freestyling into mine in the car....

Yup or i'll go to the calendar and type my ass off and sometimes it'll run over to 2 or 3 days of tasks. Then when I get home I rewrite it. LOL its good shit. Been stongly thinking about getting the treo 700, but I don't see the benefits. It's damn near the same as the 650.

[Alex Niedt]

Originally Posted by NAJI

J what do you meen when you say don't listen to a beat you just made?

I think he means make the beat, then give it a rest. Listen to it the next day or even a couple days later, and if it's still hot, go from there. I know I have to follow this because I'll come up w/ something and be like, "Oh man, I'm loving this," and I'll spend a bunch of time on it. Then when I listen the next day I'm like, "Shit, why did I spend all those hours on this yesterday? It's not that good."

[filterayok]

i think its important for every dude trying to make it in the biz to have one or two people who they TRUST, to give honest opinions... its nearly impossible for anybody to realistically judge their own shit... other people with unbiased opinions will know RIGHT AWAY what they like or dont like... and make sure these people are NOT artists themselves... artists are fickle, and EXTREMELY BIASED... the more clueless about music the person seems, the more valuable opinion it is... you'll find once these people say they like something, 99% of other people will two...(except other artists)

[Ash Holmz]

i personally dont think u should wait to start writing ... if u get inspired right after u make the beat write it down and knock it out right then ..... alotta hits are made in 15 minutes.... think about some of the hooks on ur favorite records ... when u really break it down word for word alot of them are kinda dumb .. but in the context of the moment they just work.. u cannot allow the moment of insipration to pass ... sometimes ill write to a beat rite after i make it other times ill be drivin or ridin the train or sitting on the toilet when i think of the perfect hook for a beat i made a month ago .... by following a formula u are just limitng urself my 2cents at least

[khameln]

Originally Posted by Alex Niedt

I think he means make the beat, then give it a rest. Listen to it the next day or even a couple days later, and if it's still hot, go from there. I know I have to follow this because I'll come up w/ something and be like, "Oh man, I'm loving this," and I'll spend a bunch of time on it. Then when I listen the next day I'm like, "Shit, why did I spend all those hours on this yesterday? It's not that good."

So, so true... I use the "morning after" rule for stuff I put up on my soundclick

[Apex]

If a track moves you you should be able to get down on it no matter what. You might just bein too hard on yourself, which one would do if they made the beat and did the vox. Your already hard on yourself for one or the other, I think it doubles when you do both. IMO I think if you got that skill it should be natural not forced, no matter how hot you think the beat is. I've made plenty of tracks I'd love to be on but ultimately its not my forte, so you move on to the next one. No big deal, its just another weapon in your arsenal.

[Gduron]

I think writing at night is my thing...

[WideawakE]

what I do is put it in the ipod, car or wherever...for me it helps to be moving with the music loud as **** and surrounded by a changing environment...whether that's just to work and back home or rolling around the city on my bike, it's like a video game or a soundtrack to a movie...makes it a lot easier to paint the picture for me

[Random300]

Just dug out the thread, find the topic pretty interesting.


In my case the 'Let the inspiration come to you'-theory hasn't worked so well. What I do is skipping through presets in synths, opt. with modulating fx on the channel. Sooner or later I mostly stumble across something...

Another thing I found to be very, very helpful is to try and let go of the pressure. Creativity will come and it will go, too, again and composure will help during the lows.

[INDEED]

I started off rappin long before beats.....it's funny, the more I got into beats, the less I was into rapping.....and now that I really dig my beats, and feel artistically very proud of them I'm noticing that they are starting to pull me in like a magnet to write to them....so yeah, I've been revisiting this issue too....in the past it was always really difficult writing to my own shit, I'm gonna give it a few goes & see what it do.

But in the past I always liked writing at bus stops & on the bus, listening to traffic or some Mingus or Eric Dolphy or other jazz....and of course, any other beats than what I'd be recording to....but that was then, this is now....