Vocal Chains wit the Cheapness and Audio Clips for Samples of Results?

[HOAS]

Just wanna kinda see what kinda chains tho this thread been said before but i would also like to hear snippits or samples with the gear that was used and the results that u got, so i can get an idea wut i may look for wit my voice and someone who may have a similar type of voice cuz mines is pretty high pitched so i just wanna hear a variety with those that got a cheap setup that not a real hard goal to achieve financially and get the big bang for your buck and get down to making music and selling off your talent.

[Methlab]

I dont have snippets yet..but for a good cheap combo, you could try an Audio technica 3035 mic or a Shure SM57 into a Joe Meek Three Q preamp. Im going that route for my home studio for now. When I get it all going, ill post some clips, but it will be female vocals, not rapping. Right now, Im using a Presonus Eureka with a 3035.

[NesNeedsGear]

i might be able to help you out. pending permission from the artist.

- nes

edit: here's an artist I recorded with a meager setup.

MXLv69ME (NOS Mullard) ~~> RNP/RNC set to transparent mode ~~> EMU 1820M ~~> Nuendo 3 and processed with SSL EQ (then resent out to ART PRO VLA for further compression) ~~> rough master in Wavelab 5 using WavesLinMB/PSP VintageWarmer/SSL Channel/L2, with IzotopeOzone3 MBit dither set to Ultra shape, low noise level (my finger just broke).

see if u like.

[NesNeedsGear]

one more for ya.

almost the same setup, but this time I didn't use the ART VLA.

I used strictly SSL Eq and Comp for Vocals. same mic/pre/interface setup.
also used URS on the hook vocals and some waves IR for the hook.
and FYI, everything tracked/mixed at 44.1k/24-bit using the interface's internal clock.

[P. Rene]

Here we have Senheiser e835 to mackie 1202vlz to RME ADI-2 running via adat to hdsp9652.

Software was cubase sx, effects use was s.i.r. for reverb, and pushtec eq for lead vox, mackie mixer for others, analogic delay for vocals, room works for full dump of beat, and ssl comp on masterbus.

Artist is Killah Trakz www.myspace.com/ktrakz

[HOAS]

I like Nes 2nd audio and i the One Rene had sounded a bit better and didn't have as much processing as the other audio was... Vocals sat in the mix and jumped out, but the hook could've done better sounds muddy. Any other samples i know ya'll got some.....

[NesNeedsGear]

well I was given a stereo mixdown of the beats, not the full session.

Also, the client asked me for something that would be radio ready, that he can show to an A & R.

P. Rene's audio sounds REALLY good, talib/hi tek style of mixing.

[P. Rene]

good looks man, appreciate it. But that darn comp died this morning and we're goin crazy with these new pc lingo lol. Also bout the hooks kinda what we going for for this album, we wanna keep it gritty but audible.

[HOAS]

i would also add one other thing i disliked was the voice overs sounded cluttery and it muffled the main vocals a lil bit to not be heard clearly and i'm real big on that and dont wanna run into that problem. I want some good voice overs and as for hooks good reverb or some nice lil tips on hooks on effects will do to and what kinda gear on a cheapness will acheive some of those sounds i dont need it to be remarkable cuz i aint got the money for that but audible and there's ways cause i heard people do it. So i wanna know if you two or other gotta better sample with better voice overs and a well done hook, as far as the in ya face vocals ya'll both did remarkable on it, i feel tho as said before Rene had the best with the less processing it was more clear and crisp through my ears but i was listening through headphones so i may gotta re-listen.Keep'em coming tho'

[NesNeedsGear]

here's one i did a while back.

vocals are in your face, hook is well done..and some other goodies.

overall i think it's a great mix, given that I used a stereo bounce of the beat...damn rappers.lol

EQ'd a few things, compressed carefully...Rough Master, since the mix was sent to a talented ME for final touches.

hip hop mix - How'd I Do?

[P. Rene]

the buck stops their for me, thats just our style on this end and im prettylazy on hooks also (thats bad) but i can post another. I hope this one makes a lil difference for you.

[max cooper]

Originally Posted by P. Rene

Here we have Senheiser e835 to mackie 1202vlz to RME ADI-2 running via adat to hdsp9652.

Software was cubase sx, effects use was s.i.r. for reverb, and pushtec eq for lead vox, mackie mixer for others, analogic delay for vocals, room works for full dump of beat, and ssl comp on masterbus.

Artist is Killah Trakz www.myspace.com/ktrakz

I like it. nice feel.

[P. Rene]

thanks.

[Methlab]

pushtec EQ is pretty awesome for a freebie.

[Switchcraft]

P RENE,
THAT SHIT SOUNDS GOOD MAN. VOCALS CAME THROUGH NICE.

nes i can kinda hear how there is way too much processing on your vocals. but i think the voice matter 10 times as much as all this other crap we are talking about. so that might have been it.

[P. Rene]

thing with us is (thank god for steinberg for having input channels) we record in an open bedroom and that pc was loud (R.I.P) so we recorded with the gate on though we get jumped on for that all the time but thats our bad habit. We can hear it on the lead vox on "Do It" but its kinda an fast attack fx, also i dont tend to compress hard, more focus on limiting then comping.

I knew Trakz used to catch flock on this board, because he had too many adlibs and background vox. So since he has a voice which can powerful on its own and he has this northen sound we sorta said man lets do it like they do in the north (NY and more) and keep 1 main lead and 2 adds n pan em n just call it a freakin day. Since then its just been a wrap, and this kid as more songs then most major artist.

Going from the delta 44, rode ntk, mackie hr 824's, and art tps 2 which didnt belong to us, to the current setup we have now which isnt nothing compared to the guys on this board. And like my sig says, we just have what we can afford so you know.......

[HOAS]

now this one sound a lil bit better p.rene but seem like u did like a vocal pitch thing in the background on his vocals to that's sound like he under water and robotic on the hook...Now iono if i got room to make any advice cuz i ain't got gear but i'ma tell ya something i do with just a radio shack mic plug into a soundblaster live to cooledit. When i do voice overs i'll do 2 tracks saying differently panning them differently and changing the volume...Keep'em them align is the biggest key to try to keep it together as much as possilble and just a slight bit of reverb. For hooks i just stack 8 or sometimes 12 different vocals at different pitches and different forms of aggression depending on the song and pan them differently as well and mess wit the volume and sometimes use some sort of chorus effect that comes on cooledit or i'll use a waves. And sometimes it comes out pretty decent here's one that i felt was ok for what i got. Listen to the hook tell me what u think that could improve it cuz i got the idea how i wanted to sound and i know it could come out better and my voice overs could be better to so i wanna know what kinda stuff to look into, what methods to try, what gear to invest it etc, etc,...to help the problems in my audio in this track to improve and make better ones...

Oh by the way i'm on the first verse/hook/ and part of the first half of the 2nd than my friend come along but just focus on me lol

[HOAS]

obviously i'm gettin ignored here so i'm uppin for a response

[P. Rene]

im on a blackberry didnt have time to peep till now (12:23 am). I gave it a quick breeze, I can hear the room noise and also the vocals are over the beat. Ill give it a better listen later.

[NesNeedsGear]

here's two things i hear.

- NOISE!!!!!!
- incredibly bad Room/pc fan NOISE!!!!

and then, it sounds like you recorded in a closet on a computer mic.

who's beat is this? sounds like something Chamillionaire would murder....i might have heard it, sounds familiar...but can't put my finger on it.

[HOAS]

yea but have u seen how much it cost to treat a room...if there's a cheap way to get it to sound decent and better than wut i'm suffering from pleaz let me know cuz i dont got thousands of dollars to spend on acoustic room treatmeant

[P. Rene]

well we record in an open room like i said also, no booths or anything. What is your gear list.

[HOAS]

my setup is laughable and i'm surely to be joked about so i'm kinda embarassed to say but i'll tell u just a radio shack uni-directional mic to a soundblaster live soundcard that came wit the dell running cooledit using mic modulator, warmtone, and waves platinum native plug ins wit some other effects cooledit provides like 4;1 compression. And that's all sometimes i dont capture alot of feedback from the room and sometimes i do. The mic is funny like that...And i'm tryna get a major upgrade which almost anything would be but affordable and not make me shatter my dreams like i'll never be able to afford it. So what's the gear u have and wut u refer i should look into i'ma buy piece by piece wut things u'll consider orderly if u was gonna buy piece by piece and get back to worrying about puttin good quality music and expanding your creativity on that next hit. Just want Mixtape quality is what i'm lookin for and the sound i heard from yours is what i'm been lookin for despite the hooks and the voice overs which always been my biggest pet peeve cuz i like them to be clear balance and natural. So what u suggest and by the way thanx for replying to the thread u been very helpful.

[The Marrvel]

This is always repeated, but a lot of the sound you get is in the recording and mixing techniques. I've been making great recordings with a SM57->VTB-1->dbx163x->Firewire Solo->CubaseSX3.

Just that vocal chain cost me about $230.

I've since upgraded everything besides the dbx compressor and Cubase, but my best advice would be to stick with a sure (Shure) thing. People sleep on the SM57 when going the cheap route. A hardware compressor makes a big difference too. In fact, I may upgrade to a dbx 160x or something like that. Keep in mind however, that I'm going for a very NY, sample heavy, mid 90's sound. This may not be suitable for all that synth driven stuff.

[HOAS]

Marrvel do u have a sample of your work on what u recorded with using that setup and also wut's a VTB?

[HOAS]

Software was cubase sx, effects use was s.i.r. for reverb, and pushtec eq for lead vox, mackie mixer for others, analogic delay for vocals, room works for full dump of beat, and ssl comp on masterbus

now i'm tryna find these plug-ins and effects and iono if they come wit the software or it's a plug in. Could u tell me where to find these and how much they cost? And is the SSL one the Waves or did u have a Duende or something else?

[P. Rene]

peace god 1st i have to say jeezus the "My LOve" is freakin hot man, and this is coming from an anti rnb dude lol!

2nd just go to kvr and do a search for em they are free. The SSL were brought from american musical. But i would say like marvel said to get ya front end right 1st. peace.