What Monitors would u suggest for someone making beats on a budget

[KevWest]

I need new monitors badly but I don't have much money and I dont have any credit to buy the ones Id like to get my hands on. So I will only be able to spend up to $500 on a pair. I have been drooling over the Rokit 8s but at the same time I don't want to put myself in a finalcial bind and then hate the monitors. Ive also been looking at the behringer Truths which I like but I don't want to sell myself short. Ive also been looking at the BX8s by M Audio and the Rokit 6s. I dont know if there will be a big difference between a 8 and 6 inch woofer or even a 5 inch. I hear that the bass isn't as clear and responsive on the smaller woofers is that true? Does the woofer size make a big difference when it comes to mixing beats on monitors? My mixes are decent for the speakers I am using but I think I need something new that will allow me to spend more time on details. Right now I am mixing with these

http://www.alesis.com/products/ProActive20/

http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite...transid=004974

I love the headphones but nothing sounds the same when ur using headphones vs monitors and I would trust monitors more than headphones please help

[brian_delizza]

http://www.highprofileaudio.com/BlueSky.html

If I didn't say it I'm sure Tony would have...

[KevWest]

http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp8.asp

http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp6.asp

http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp5.asp

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_u...X8a-focus.html


After doing a little more reading on the frequency response Im curious how big of a difference will u notice in these 4 monitors?

[mentalattica]

I have the RP8's and BX5's, there's definitely a difference in the low end between these 2 monitors, so I'd imagine there'd a be a difference between the rp8's and rp6's. I like my RP8's if that helps any

You can get the original BX8's for around $300 or lower these days. MF sometimes have blemished or refurbs for $249 - $299.

[azwun25]

Event TR8XL

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by azwun25

Event TR8XL

i was looking at those a few days ago but wasnt sure kuz i never heard of them how do they compare to this pair
http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-NFS-EVETR8.html

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by mentalattica

I have the RP8's and BX5's, there's definitely a difference in the low end between these 2 monitors, so I'd imagine there'd a be a difference between the rp8's and rp6's. I like my RP8's if that helps any

You can get the original BX8's for around $300 or lower these days. MF sometimes have blemished or refurbs for $249 - $299.

the low end response on the bx8s are better than the RP8s on paper but i havent a/b'd them to see a difference but I met with a guy who had a pair of BX8s with his mo6 and it sounded great

[delano517]

FOSTEX PM2's CHECK THEM OUT!!

[djui5]

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MSP5/

[mentalattica]

Originally Posted by xabiton

the low end response on the bx8s are better than the RP8s on paper but i havent a/b'd them to see a difference but I met with a guy who had a pair of BX8s with his mo6 and it sounded great

Yeah the BX8's do provide a little more "thump" than the RP8's, but I actually prefer the RP8's over the BX8's because the original BX8's are a little harsh for my ear. I haven't heard the BX8a's yet though.

[burbree]

Don't consider the behringer's they're a swear word in my studio, the RP5's and 6's are less bottom endy than the 8's yet they seem more accurate. The Fostex PM 0.5's are worth looking at as they are a bit more thumpy on the low end.

t

[Anonyme]

i don't know whether this has changed, but when i went to listen to some monitors in a shop with a friend who wanted cheap ones all sounded like shit to me... i normally wanted some adam p11 for reference since i heard they were good, but as they didn't have them we had some genelec 1030 instead. in my opinion they where the only acceptable speakers but way too expensive for my friend. i would consider using your hifi speakers until you can afford good speakers.

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by burbree

Don't consider the behringer's they're a swear word in my studio, the RP5's and 6's are less bottom endy than the 8's yet they seem more accurate. The Fostex PM 0.5's are worth looking at as they are a bit more thumpy on the low end.

t

Ive used them before I kind of like them but I dont think they are the best for my budget

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by Anonyme

i don't know whether this has changed, but when i went to listen to some monitors in a shop with a friend who wanted cheap ones all sounded like shit to me... i normally wanted some adam p11 for reference since i heard they were good, but as they didn't have them we had some genelec 1030 instead. in my opinion they where the only acceptable speakers but way too expensive for my friend. i would consider using your hifi speakers until you can afford good speakers.

I dont have hi fi speakers atleats i dont believe these are hi fi speakers

[mosrite]

Monitors are one piece of kit that I think it's really important to splash out on. I have never heard a cheap pair that sound in any way acceptable in my opinion. Personally I would try some second hand passives (as nothing really goes wrong with speakers if they are looked after) and a decent amp. I would avoid any budget actives from the likes of Behringer and Fostex.

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by mosrite

Monitors are one piece of kit that I think it's really important to splash out on. I have never heard a cheap pair that sound in any way acceptable in my opinion. Personally I would try some second hand passives (as nothing really goes wrong with speakers if they are looked after) and a decent amp. I would avoid any budget actives from the likes of Behringer and Fostex.

u make a great point I just wish I had the money for it. $500 is really a breaking point for me. I don't have much space for an amp either nor am I really interested in getting one Id much rather use a active monitor and make a dummy mix for instrumentals that can be re mixed in the studio once we have vocals.

[RadioBox]

Back when I was broke, I used to use my bose 301's to monitor on. Then I decided to get some cheap monitors(m-audio Bx8). That was the biggest waste of $500 in my life. Not only did they last a month longer then the warranty, but my mixes actually translated better when I used the Bose speakers. Unfortunately, when the m-audio's died out on me, I still hadn't learned my lesson, and bought a set of samson resolves, just until I could afford something nicer. (my wife wouldn't let me jack the bose from the living room). I was so glad when one fell of the stand and I finally bought some jbl lsr's. But if you think about the 800 or so bucks I spent on sh!tty monitors just to hold me over, you can see what a waste they are. That's a lot of money to spend on something that isn't going to do what you need it to do. IMHO, if you can't afford good monitors, use a home stereo to monitor with until you can. It's just one of those things that makes no sense to stair step. Kinda like kids buying those cheap ass condenser mics instead of something useful like a 57, just because they are told that a "professional condenser mic" is mandatory. Too bad no one tells them that a professional condenser mic costs more than $60. Sorry, but that just bugs me.

[TonyBelmont]

Blue Sky Media Desk!!!!

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by RadioBox

Back when I was broke, I used to use my bose 301's to monitor on. Then I decided to get some cheap monitors(m-audio Bx8). That was the biggest waste of $500 in my life. Not only did they last a month longer then the warranty, but my mixes actually translated better when I used the Bose speakers. Unfortunately, when the m-audio's died out on me, I still hadn't learned my lesson, and bought a set of samson resolves, just until I could afford something nicer. (my wife wouldn't let me jack the bose from the living room). I was so glad when one fell of the stand and I finally bought some jbl lsr's. But if you think about the 800 or so bucks I spent on sh!tty monitors just to hold me over, you can see what a waste they are. That's a lot of money to spend on something that isn't going to do what you need it to do. IMHO, if you can't afford good monitors, use a home stereo to monitor with until you can. It's just one of those things that makes no sense to stair step. Kinda like kids buying those cheap ass condenser mics instead of something useful like a 57, just because they are told that a "professional condenser mic" is mandatory. Too bad no one tells them that a professional condenser mic costs more than $60. Sorry, but that just bugs me.

i feel u if it wasnt just for rough mixes i wouldnt think about gettin something better but i hate how my home mixes dont translate on other systems. im not looking to record entire albums or anything like that but something that would help me get into some better frequencies would help a lot i would be tracking everything and taking it to the studio of course

[maxout]

Originally Posted by mentalattica

I have the RP8's and BX5's, there's definitely a difference in the low end between these 2 monitors, so I'd imagine there'd a be a difference between the rp8's and rp6's. I like my RP8's if that helps any

You can get the original BX8's for around $300 or lower these days. MF sometimes have blemished or refurbs for $249 - $299.

yep another one i have seen m-audio stuff and they are hot..

the new ones are even smashing hit.. the price is right and performance is good..

but don't forget to check ur room size etc before u buy it.. otherwise 8" might be too big for ur room.. if not than go for it.

[NesNeedsGear]

i've used the original M-audio BX8's for a while now at one of my setups.

They sound good for the price (which means slightly less crappier than other crap at the same price). The mids are slightly piercing at loud volumes, but overall the response is relatively flat and they translate well. I believe I used the -2db setting in the mids to calm that down. They have adjustable acoustic settings for bass mids and highs.

for $500, look into the Blue Sky Desk 2.1. It's winning all types of awards and accolades for a reason. They sound terrific.

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by maxout

yep another one i have seen m-audio stuff and they are hot..

the new ones are even smashing hit.. the price is right and performance is good..

but don't forget to check ur room size etc before u buy it.. otherwise 8" might be too big for ur room.. if not than go for it.

too small for a room? what do u mean

[mosrite]

I've been trying hard to think of an option within the price range and I think that NesNeedsGear has it bang on with the Blue Sky suggestion.

[NesNeedsGear]

Originally Posted by xabiton

too small for a room? what do u mean

smaller rooms, and square rooms have, how do you say....SH*TTY LOW FREQUENCY RESPONSE!!! Read up on why (low end nodes).
You need as many bass traps as you can afford to fit in there.

A bigger bass driver (8" as opposed to 6") may just as well compound the problem and make you think it's the monitors themselves that suck.

[halfguard]

im about to get the blue sky.......

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by NesNeedsGear

smaller rooms, and square rooms have, how do you say....SH*TTY LOW FREQUENCY RESPONSE!!! Read up on why (low end nodes).
You need as many bass traps as you can afford to fit in there.

A bigger bass driver (8" as opposed to 6") may just as well compound the problem and make you think it's the monitors themselves that suck.

i see so a smaller monitor may actually be helpful as well vs a bigger woofer hmmm

[Methlab]

I got a KRK sub and that really makes a difference. If you do beats a sub is almost mandatory.

[KevWest]

^why

[gm5k]

dynaudio BM5A's are great for around $1000. amazing clarity...you can add the sub woofer later for another grand, but i feel like they have enough punch as it is. they are very compact as well. im in love with em.

oops...you said $500 for a pair...my bad

[rufus13]

Several things are going on at once when a manufacturer offers 2 models with similar tweeters and different size woofers. Assuming the woofers are of the same general quality, the box volume and port will be different because the drivers resonate at different frequncies. The crossover frequency should be different, too. The only similarities are a shared tweeter and a similar part number like 882 for the 8" woofer model and 682 for the 6 inch model. They will sound different.

$500 can make a big difference with DIY room treatment, maybe more than new monitors (if the old ones still work). Experiment with speaker placement on stands.

Cheers.

Karl