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What's your mastering chain look like?!?!

Just curious as to what gear and,or plugs those of you doing mostly hip hop are using and how you are using them in sequence/ what sequence...

Kinda want a Rough outline contrasting to what others doing other genera of music are using, not that it will be necessarily different but then again it kinda is being that we tend to emphasize certain things a little differently...

Recommendations on a good master quality limiter plug would also be appreciated! Thanks..
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Whatever the track needs..

Seriously, it's never the same.

Sometimes i might throw oxford inflater in the mix to give a fuller sound without compression, sometimes the mix is so level and full it doesn't need it.

Sometimes i'll use a transient shaper before the compressor to accentuate the transient peaks, sometimes i'll conversely use it to lessen the sustain to give the track a more open feel.

For limiters i like the one in Izotope Ozone.
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Ahh yes the inflator!
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If I'm mastering my own mix? That's easy.

Limiter.
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The chain itself is

Drawmer 1968 (modded) -> BSS FC960 -> Filtek MK3a -> DBX160SL -> Clariphonic -> Slate Digital FG-X

However, the Bypass function is usually on most of these pieces for any given mix, or I just patch around some units.
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That slate plug looks tasty!

Inflator-> slate digital fg-x?
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If I'm mastering my own mix? That's easy.

Limiter.
Done.
Love this answer. The truth is in there.
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Today I used this, Never the same.

PSP Mastercomp>Cytomic The Glue>Bootsy Ferric TDS>Oxford Inflator>Ozone Maximizer

Just a touch of serial compression(high pass sidechain), touch of saturation, final limiting,
no eq, because that was handled in the mix, while these were on the master bus.
For final limiting, I usually prefer the Oxford Limiter, but, sometimes I use the Ozone Maximizer
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My mastering chain involves fairies, dust, and cotton candy.
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EQ (if needed) > MaxxBass > C6 Multiband > Camel Crusher > L3 Limiter > Event Horizon (use the softclip)
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I got a default mastering chain. I bypass certain slots if theyr not needed. I jsut to a lil mastering to please the ears of potencial buyers online. Usually the stuff goes out to mastering engineers.

My default template chain looks like this:

-Waves Req (at least a roll off at 20 hz 12db per octave)
-C6 (even out the balance, boosting a lil highs 10k +)
-SSL Bus comp / The Glue (attack 30, Ratio 2:1 , Release auto) 1-2 db gain reduction
-Kramer Tape / Aphex
-RDeesser (if it gets to harsh)
L2 (max 3 db of gain reduction)
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If I'm mastering my own mix? That's easy.

Limiter.
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Quoted for Truth.
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So you both throws single limiter on the final mix and call it well-done...?
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So you both throws single limiter on the final mix and call it well-done...?
I am sure that SOMETIMES, they may feel the need to add some masterbuss
compression,other. Sometimes the whole mix may need this, and gives a different
sound than compression for each track.
But if the track will not benefit from that, a simple limiter is used.
They know from experience, that their mixes translate well.
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So you both throws single limiter on the final mix and call it well-done...?
People who do this "usually" have master buss compression etc incorporated into the mix.
Some people dont. Historically I would leave 2 buss stuff for mastering. If mastering my mix, put on a different hat and add herbs and spices with fresh ears at least a week later.

Avedis e27s into
Avalon 747 into
SSL G clone or Klark Teknik DN500 comp / limiter / expander
Maybe a touch of Massive Passive
Maybe some API eq
Maybe some de-esser if I didnt mix it.
Maybe a different chain...

Depends.... but this is usually a decent starting point.

Im starting to consider mixing with 2 buss stuff though so this might change soon.
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It is always different but there are a few things that typically find their way into the final sound.

RoughRider compressor (bad ass, free plug in)
LP9's Space Designer (dialed in to be almost subliminal)

Looking to pick up Kush's Fatso plug-in, but might just use it for drum bus. We shall see!
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Limiter, a lil compression and a i eq out the real highs and the real lows that don't need to be there
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For beats for real just Pro L If I'm in the box and when I'm out it varies
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Exciter > 32 MB de-expander (upward compressor) > limiter
Always the same, but different settings which are automatically generated by the analysis of the sound file.
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I usually mix with hardware bus compression and EQ on the whole mix. I'll usually only need to limit for more loudness and maybe if I get bored I'll do some MS EQ tricks to make the track more enveloping.

If I'm mastering someone else's mix then I'll pull out all the tricks if it needs it.

Mixing is about making it sound finished from the get go. Not waiting until the end to do it. Especially when it comes to bus processing, it's often more helpful to think of it as part of the mixing process itself.
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What limiter would you suggest for that final touch then?
Plug or outboard...
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tape>then back to digital then L2 then done.
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So you both throws single limiter on the final mix and call it well-done...?
For my own mixes, yeah, just a limiter. Maybe some compression before it, not much else.
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tape>then back to digital then L2 then done.
Or Neve 542 tape sim, some silk, back ITB for limiting. If not, Bootsie Ferric tape plugin then limiter.
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Limiter, a lil compression and a i eq out the real highs and the real lows that don't need to be there
If you have excess sub-audible and super-audible tones in your track you might get better results from addressing that in the mix. I find hi/lo pass filtering tends to be a compromise at best over the whole mix. Just my two percent.
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I love that I have $8,000+ worth of gear in my mastering chain and the one that gets the thumbs up is the $300 FG-X. Great plug though.
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If you have excess sub-audible and super-audible tones in your track you might get better results from addressing that in the mix. I find hi/lo pass filtering tends to be a compromise at best over the whole mix. Just my two percent.
Strap a BAX EQ on the end of your chain, set the filters, and never worry about high or low pass filtering, again. And yes, it will translate beautifully.

It really is a special EQ. IMO, you cannot boost lows properly (or as efficiently & easy) without removing subsonic gunk with this tool. It's an absolute knock-out for getting it right prior to hitting your mastering converter. And I haven't even discussed the EQ character, yet...
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I love that I have $8,000+ worth of gear in my mastering chain and the one that gets the thumbs up is the $300 FG-X. Great plug though.
Plug looks sick. I think it was mentioned because of its affordability is all.. I know that's why I looked at it first anyways...
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havent been mastering long (i should say attempting to master) but im getting good results with tools in reason. it usually goes: mclass EQ --> mclass compressor ---> isotope ozone...with the master bus compressor barely there just sort of filling in cracks...
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