akg 414 XL II with vintech x73i ???

verbal · 19th August 2006, 12:01 AM

Hello
I know a lot of posts have been made on these two individual pieces of gear but I am curious about what people think about how they work together. I currently use these to record rap vocals and reggae. I do not have experience with many different microphones and I have been reading a lot of posts where people said that the akg is not the best for rap type vocals. I had originally hoped that the akg's flat response would complement the colour that is added by the vintech...but now I am wondering if I made an error. Do you guys think that my set up is fine or is there another mic (in the same price range as the akg 414 -> around $1100) that would be better suited with my pre? Thanks in advance.

DivineMusic · 19th August 2006, 12:40 AM

I'm using a 414 XL II with a Isa220. sounds great . i'vedone a few commerical songs with this combo over the last month and it sounds great. i like the vintech but i'd get a distressor to go along with it....

i say get an A-designs pacifica with the 414 XL II and you'll be set.. get yourself at least a dbx 160xt or pro vla compressor too... its a little extra money but worth it... i see dbx 160's every week for 150-260

**TonyBelmont** · 20th August 2006, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by verbal

Hello
I know a lot of posts have been made on these two individual pieces of gear but I am curious about what people think about how they work together. I currently use these to record rap vocals and reggae. I do not have experience with many different microphones and I have been reading a lot of posts where people said that the akg is not the best for rap type vocals. I had originally hoped that the akg's flat response would complement the colour that is added by the vintech...but now I am wondering if I made an error. Do you guys think that my set up is fine or is there another mic (in the same price range as the akg 414 -> around $1100) that would be better suited with my pre? Thanks in advance.

It all depends on what type of results you are trying to achieve... What kind of sound you want from a microphone, etc. I personally wouldn't use a 414 for rap vocals, and there are a couple mics in that price range that may perform better for you..

e-are · 20th August 2006, 02:43 PM

i've used a 414 with a vintech 473 and i thought it was ok. i'm now using a blue mouse with the 473 and it's waaaaay bigger and better. i'm going to try that mic tony talks about, i think it's the psuendo 251. thats probably the wrong spelling, but a friend bought one -- per tony's advice.

verbal · 21st August 2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

It all depends on what type of results you are trying to achieve... What kind of sound you want from a microphone, etc. I personally wouldn't use a 414 for rap vocals, and there are a couple mics in that price range that may perform better for you..

any suggestions? What do you guys think the best choices would be in the ($1200) price range that is comparable or better then the 414 for rap vocals? I know it depends but could you give me some options so that I can start narrowing it down a bit.
Thanks everyone for the replys I will definitly check out the gear you guys suggested...I DO really want a distressor as I am using a RNC right now...maybe I should worry about that first....

**TonyBelmont** · 21st August 2006, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verbal

any suggestions? What do you guys think the best choices would be in the ($1200) price range that is comparable or better then the 414 for rap vocals? I know it depends but could you give me some options so that I can start narrowing it down a bit.
Thanks everyone for the replys I will definitly check out the gear you guys suggested...I DO really want a distressor as I am using a RNC right now...maybe I should worry about that first....

The Peluso 251 can sound amazing on certain rappers and is in that price range...

verbal · 23rd August 2006, 08:23 AM

cool...I'll definitely check the Peluso 251 out. One last question...do you think it would be more important for me to get a better compressor (ie the Distressor) to replace my RNC or should I worry about the mic first? I usually do the majority of my compression ITB using the Waves Ren Vox or Ren Compressor.

verbal · 23rd August 2006, 08:34 AM

cool...I'll definitely check the Peluso 251 out. One last question...do you think it would be more important for me to get a better compressor (ie the Distressor) to replace my RNC or should I worry about the mic first? I usually do the majority of my compression ITB using the Waves Ren Vox or Ren Compressor.

DivineMusic · 23rd August 2006, 03:27 PM

i haven't heard to many vocals tracked through a 22 251 that i didn't like... sometimes the 2247LE can sound to big or to upfront but the 22 251 sits in the mix very well
when i get some extra money i'm gonna buy all the peluso mics...

**TonyBelmont** · 23rd August 2006, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verbal

cool...I'll definitely check the Peluso 251 out. One last question...do you think it would be more important for me to get a better compressor (ie the Distressor) to replace my RNC or should I worry about the mic first? I usually do the majority of my compression ITB using the Waves Ren Vox or Ren Compressor.

Well the mic and the pre are the most important... If you're doing most of your compression in the box, the Distressor won't help as much.

JDN · 25th August 2006, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verbal

cool...I'll definitely check the Peluso 251 out. One last question...do you think it would be more important for me to get a better compressor (ie the Distressor) to replace my RNC or should I worry about the mic first? I usually do the majority of my compression ITB using the Waves Ren Vox or Ren Compressor.

I think the RNC is great for your situation, I would put my money into a new Mic or Pre first.

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verbal Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 32	akg 414 XL II with vintech x73i ??? Hello I know a lot of posts have been made on these two individual pieces of gear but I am curious about what people think about how they work together. I currently use these to record rap vocals and reggae. I do not have experience with many different microphones and I have been reading a lot of posts where people said that the akg is not the best for rap type vocals. I had originally hoped that the akg's flat response would complement the colour that is added by the vintech...but now I am wondering if I made an error. Do you guys think that my set up is fine or is there another mic (in the same price range as the akg 414 -> around $1100) that would be better suited with my pre? Thanks in advance.

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19th August 2006, 12:40 AM	#2
DivineMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 1,561	I'm using a 414 XL II with a Isa220. sounds great . i'vedone a few commerical songs with this combo over the last month and it sounds great. i like the vintech but i'd get a distressor to go along with it.... i say get an A-designs pacifica with the 414 XL II and you'll be set.. get yourself at least a dbx 160xt or pro vla compressor too... its a little extra money but worth it... i see dbx 160's every week for 150-260

20th August 2006, 02:43 PM	#4
e-are Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 156	i've used a 414 with a vintech 473 and i thought it was ok. i'm now using a blue mouse with the 473 and it's waaaaay bigger and better. i'm going to try that mic tony talks about, i think it's the psuendo 251. thats probably the wrong spelling, but a friend bought one -- per tony's advice.

23rd August 2006, 08:23 AM	#7
verbal Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 32	cool...I'll definitely check the Peluso 251 out. One last question...do you think it would be more important for me to get a better compressor (ie the Distressor) to replace my RNC or should I worry about the mic first? I usually do the majority of my compression ITB using the Waves Ren Vox or Ren Compressor.

23rd August 2006, 08:34 AM	#8
verbal Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 32	cool...I'll definitely check the Peluso 251 out. One last question...do you think it would be more important for me to get a better compressor (ie the Distressor) to replace my RNC or should I worry about the mic first? I usually do the majority of my compression ITB using the Waves Ren Vox or Ren Compressor.

23rd August 2006, 03:27 PM	#9
DivineMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 1,561	i haven't heard to many vocals tracked through a 22 251 that i didn't like... sometimes the 2247LE can sound to big or to upfront but the 22 251 sits in the mix very well when i get some extra money i'm gonna buy all the peluso mics...