Pete Rock & Joey Bada$$ collab

[DESERT_HEAD]

excited. good to see young new rappers that actually have good taste in hip hop

[beat you down]

good shhh

joey really is bad ass imo

hopefully pr pulls out some old disks.

[raffael77]

He is really overrated but it's a cool song.

[Jawnson]

I'm excited to hear the final product!

[Dayl]

Pete Rock

!!!

[DESERT_HEAD]

Originally Posted by raffael77

He is really overrated but it's a cool song.

look hes no nas, pun or tupac. but hes a young kid with good flow and alot of potential and good taste in beats. thats why i enjoy him

[raffael77]

Originally Posted by DESERT_HEAD

look hes no nas, pun or tupac. but hes a young kid with good flow and alot of potential and good taste in beats. thats why i enjoy him

The rappers you came up are overrated as well specially Nas and for shure 2Pac (most overrated one)

The reason i call someone overrated is a fact he/she is hyped by certain industry people. Let say some people are helping him just like Kendrik Lamar or ASAP Rocky

[beat you down]

dude you suffer from back packer nostalgia. nas overrated? lol

joey b a would be dope no matter what era or industry condition.

here you have pete rock and a young dude who likes that 90's stuff, still you naggin'

you know wild style was a shitty movie pimpin' hip hop culture right?
shit like that started what you down on all the time.

who are there so called greats you talk about anyway?

who enlightened you?

all the pioneers talked about was girls money cars drugs as well.

[Vanilla_Dutches]

Originally Posted by raffael77

The rappers you came up are overrated as well specially Nas and for shure 2Pac (most overrated one)

The reason i call someone overrated is a fact he/she is hyped by certain industry people. Let say some people are helping him just like Kendrik Lamar or ASAP Rocky

So everybody should strive to stay broke making music?

[raffael77]

Originally Posted by Vanilla_Dutches

So everybody should strive to stay broke making music?

Money destroyed the quality of music and that's not an fact but a given.

What's wrong making good quality music and make a livin' out of it but not like million's of dollars to sell your soul to be a prostitute for your label and make an big profit out of you.

It's your own life. You can have a solid base of money but alot of money makes you greedy and have fake fans.

[Dustymentals]

Originally Posted by raffael77

Money destroyed the quality of music and that's not an fact but a given.

What's wrong making good quality music and make a livin' out of it but not like million's of dollars to sell your soul to be a prostitute for your label and make an big profit out of you.

It's your own life. You can have a solid base of money but alot of money makes you greedy and have fake fans.

Whats a "fake fan" exactly?

And how does having alot of money make you greedy?

[rekwon]

Still though,nas overrated? The fact that a 19-20 year old could write the lyrics on "Illmatic" is a miracle. I still listen to "who's world..." In disbelief ,knowing that such a young kid wrote that shit. Can't really call pac overrated either..his music has connected with,and had a deeper emotional impact on more people than any mc in history,and this possibly could have been said even before he died. I've only heard a couple badass joints but he sounds pretty dope.

[Vanilla_Dutches]

Originally Posted by raffael77

Money destroyed the quality of music and that's not an fact but a given.

What's wrong making good quality music and make a livin' out of it but not like million's of dollars to sell your soul to be a prostitute for your label and make an big profit out of you.

It's your own life. You can have a solid base of money but alot of money makes you greedy and have fake fans.

The problem is...it's not really like that anymore.

You have Artist A who just makes his music how he sees fit...is having fun with it or doing it to get pu**y, like most rappers in the 80's and 90's were.

They develop a grass roots following, still making THEIR music.

They go to labels with millions of fans with complete albums, ready to be marketed.

At this point, what? They get a 360 deal for touring and distro.

So what does this mean? That the labels are not really developing and cultivating these artists anymore. They are getting a much more organic product as opposed to a manufactured one like previous eras.

So why blame corporatism? Because what you are seeing being marketed today is MUCH more what the people are asking for as opposed to what is being pumped down their throats. Corporate America is just the vehicle to get this stuff to a wider base. And they still manage to eat off of it.

Seems your anger is misguided. It's the fans that are the "industry" now.

[raffael77]

I ment fake friends instead of fake fans.

[wreckingstuff]

I think Joey Bada$$ is the real deal, what I can't understand is Freddie Gibbs.

[raffael77]

Originally Posted by Vanilla_Dutches

The problem is...it's not really like that anymore.

You have Artist A who just makes his music how he sees fit...is having fun with it or doing it to get pu**y, like most rappers in the 80's and 90's were.

They develop a grass roots following, still making THEIR music.

They go to labels with millions of fans with complete albums, ready to be marketed.

At this point, what? They get a 360 deal for touring and distro.

So what does this mean? That the labels are not really developing and cultivating these artists anymore. They are getting a much more organic product as opposed to a manufactured one like previous eras.

So why blame corporatism? Because what you are seeing being marketed today is MUCH more what the people are asking for as opposed to what is being pumped down their throats. Corporate America is just the vehicle to get this stuff to a wider base. And they still manage to eat off of it.

Seems your anger is misguided. It's the fans that are the "industry" now.

If that's not the problems these days why are so called hiphop heads like Wayne, Kanye or Drake still at the mainstream level and not Joey Badass or any non mainstream artist. It's all about the money hoe (not aimed at you).

Corporatism has been there for ages.

[raffael77]

I think to many of you guys/girls are to ignorant to see the thruth about corporate sytem we life in.

The reason most people don't understand is because they don't think. This is why corporatism still happen. This is the main reason to manipulate people and specially the ignorant/naïve youth.

That is also the reason GS won't allow duscussions about the music industry. Nuff Said!!

[wreckingstuff]

Surely there is no need to do the 'defender of the real' thing in this thread, the dude is working with Pete Rock.

[raffael77]

Originally Posted by wreckingstuff

Surely there is no need to do the 'defender of the real' thing in this thread, the dude is working with Pete Rock.

So what!

[Vanilla_Dutches]

The fact is, if there was no such thing as Capitalism, or money at that, you would still find a reason to bitch about more people not liking the music you listen to than people who do.

[SeriousPancakes]

Oh yeah, the industry is definitely evil in regards to hip hop. I've been in the office where I've heard some stuff that would make people's heads turn (let's just say racist is an understatement) and it goes much deeper than money. There is a reason hip hop is not played on the radio and contemporary 'urban' music is all about sex, drugs, and crime.

[DESERT_HEAD]

Originally Posted by raffael77

The rappers you came up are overrated as well specially Nas and for shure 2Pac (most overrated one)

The reason i call someone overrated is a fact he/she is hyped by certain industry people. Let say some people are helping him just like Kendrik Lamar or ASAP Rocky

thats cool.to each their own. nas is def not overrated alot of people will back me on that. i never liked tupac's music to be honest but he was an amazing music artist. i would really like to know though, who your personal greats are?

[beat you down]

Originally Posted by raffael77

I think to many of you guys/girls are to ignorant to see the thruth about corporate sytem we life in.

The reason most people don't understand is because they don't think. This is why corporatism still happen. This is the main reason to manipulate people and specially the ignorant/naïve youth.

That is also the reason GS won't allow duscussions about the music industry. Nuff Said!!

i'm pretty sure you mean well but you also talk a whole lot of trash dude.
like i asked before...
you have your little wild style avatar, you call nas and joey b a overrated. who do you listen to then?

[TheOxmyn]

Originally Posted by raffael77

The rappers you came up are overrated as well specially Nas

[Dayl]

Joey is all good and appears to have a bright future ahead of him.

1999 was no hype, thats a real deal example of how you put together a mixtape. The kids flow, track selection, attitude & style is on point. I'll admit that I don't know much about the rest of the Pro Era camp, but good on this kid.

Working with Preem, Pete Rock ..... lucky

It's cool to see many of these new kids coming through going back to the boom bap instead of the next dubstep hip hop, boom trap producer. Refreshing.

[JLF]

First post
I am an 90's head and Joey has major fire, add Pete Rock and you have a dope combination. Wasn't feeling that first beat Pete dropped but the track Joey used sounds good.

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[longbongsilver]

Originally Posted by wreckingstuff

I think Joey Bada$$ is the real deal, what I can't understand is Freddie Gibbs.

Gibbs is a throwback too, gangsta rapper with actual flow like they were expected to have at first.

[raffael77]

Originally Posted by beat you down

i'm pretty sure you mean well but you also talk a whole lot of trash dude.
like i asked before...
you have your little wild style avatar, you call nas and joey b a overrated. who do you listen to then?

I think you gonna troll anyway but here are a few hiphop things i check out

http://youtu.be/RoLxiRFN13w

http://youtu.be/adbKeO-lMFQ

http://youtu.be/GdvY3uq7RIY

http://youtu.be/zH759317jIk

[Le PHANTOM Z]

Originally Posted by raffael77

Money destroyed the quality of music and that's not an fact but a given.

What's wrong making good quality music and make a livin' out of it but not like million's of dollars to sell your soul to be a prostitute for your label and make an big profit out of you.

It's your own life. You can have a solid base of money but alot of money makes you greedy and have fake fans.

dope links though