Pensado: how i mix snoop's vocals (youtube tutorial)

[sbechristos]

I know this vid seen it a few month ago, the beyonce call is hilarious, I love dave and his team, great stuff fo sho

[jrides]

The B3yonce fall is worth a special nod. I also laughed when that happened.

[ModernMixing]

Dave is definitely a great guy. I think one of a handful of mentors that I can say I actually learned something from.

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by ModernMixing

Dave is definitely a great guy. I think one of a handful of mentors that I can say I actually learned something from.

Wow, really? You can't have met many people. You can learn as much from a student as from a mentor.

[P Basie]

Originally Posted by Karloff70

Wow, really? You can't have met many people. You can learn as much from a student as from a mentor.

Student or not. In this industry not everyone gets the opportunity to have a great mentor, I was fortunate to have one. Regardless... I'm very thankful Dave's willing to take all the time to share his incredible talent and engineering skills.

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by P Basie

Student or not. In this industry not everyone gets the opportunity to have a great mentor, I was fortunate to have one. Regardless... I'm very thankful Dave's willing to take all the time to share his incredible talent and engineering skills.

Please don't misunderstand. I am very good with someone like Pensado pouring out the knowledge. This is great stuff. I was merely reacting to the idea of someone being of the opinion that there had only been 'a handful' of people that he had actually learned anything from. In my reality that is preposterous.

[ModernMixing]

Originally Posted by Karloff70

Wow, really? You can't have met many people. You can learn as much from a student as from a mentor.

Yes I have talked and worked with many people and I do learn from both sides of the fence in being a student and a teacher. That being said when I was actually learning to mix either people that I met wouldn't give up their "secrets" or the stuff I read in books and online was pure CRAP, none of it worked. I'm sorry to say it so bluntly. There are great people on forums and the net who divulge some useful info but there is SOOOO much more crap that gets recycled and regurgitated. Thats my point. My biggest learning came from mostly practise but also by cutting out the crap once I read Interviews from Dave and other great engineers. Also by speaking with Dave on the phone I felt like he was one of the few that were actually steering me, and others, in the right direction. He wanted others to succeed, while other "mentors" didnt want you to take their job. Thats all!

[Karloff70]

Anyone any good knows you can't 'be them' just because they show you a few tricks.

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[ModernMixing]

Originally Posted by Karloff70

Anyone any good knows you can't 'be them' just because they show you a few tricks.

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It has nothing to do with tricks. Its about a complete mindset in regards to mixing. Most people in the world dont have a chance to work along side someone whos respected in industry, especially with studios dropping like flies. And in the maze of online and hardcover content it really is hard to find someone who not only teaches, but understands the mindset. That's why Dave is great at helping young engineers. He is the closet thing some people have to a real mentor and to think otherwise is pretty ignorant.

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by ModernMixing

It has nothing to do with tricks. Its about a complete mindset in regards to mixing. Most people in the world dont have a chance to work along side someone whos respected in industry, especially with studios dropping like flies. And in the maze of online and hardcover content it really is hard to find someone who not only teaches, but understands the mindset. That's why Dave is great at helping young engineers. He is the closet thing some people have to a real mentor and to think otherwise is pretty ignorant.

I'm not sure what you're responding to. I said what I said in response to you mentioning guys who were not wanting to 'give away their secrets', nor wanted others to do well....tricks, secrets...bla bla, same thing. All I said is that anyone who is any good is safe in the knowledge that whatever 'secrets' he hands on will never make the guy you hand them to be able to do it how you do it anyway, so giving is always good.

You don't have to explain to me why Pensado is sharing or that it is a good thing. Obviously it is. Oh and thanks for calling me ignorant. For whatever reason.

[ModernMixing]

Originally Posted by Karloff70

In my reality that is preposterous.

That is an ignorant statement. My "opinion", as you like to call it, was actually my experience.

I put "secrets" in brackets as to almost make fun of it in a way because there aren't any but some do treat them that way.

You obviously only know your own "reality" because there is some kid in timbucktwo trying to learn to be a better engineer and doesnt have access to the people or knowledge that you may have been fortunate enough to receive. Hence my statements on the internet and Dave P. You just assume that because you are blessed that everyone must be as well. Its like a rich kid saying "You mean there's actually poor people in the world? Not where I'm from so it must not be true"

It is a reality that there are lots of people who cant get good honest information and I truly believe that is a HUGE reason why people like Dave started his show. Even though he calaims its because of his "Ego" sometimes, which I find hilarious lol

When I said you were ignorant I didnt mean it in a malicious way, its just true, you are unaware. No Big Deal.

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by ModernMixing

That is an ignorant statement. You obviously only know your own "reality" so some kid in timbucktwo trying to learn to be a better engineer doesnt have access to the people or knowledge that you may have been fortunate enough to receive. Hence my statements on the internet and Dave P. You just assume that because you are blessed that everyone must be as well. Its like a rich kid saying "You mean there's actually poor people in the world? Not where I'm from so it must not be true"

I didnt mean it in a malicious way, it just means that you arent aware thats all.

lol....wow. You are the new projection champion. Really. You completely missed my point and made up a whole new angle that I am supposedly on.

The thing I reacted to in the beginning was your arrogant statement of there only ever having been a handful of people who were able to teach you something. In my reality that's bullshit. Pompous bullshit. Never said a word of bad about Dave. Why would I? Jesus.

[GJ999x]

Great debate guys... time to take it outside though perhaps

@modernmixing: Great vids btw, will def. be checking those out in more detail. Nice site as well (that ferric tape thing isnt available on AU though if i remember rite....)

[ModernMixing]

Originally Posted by Karloff70

lol....wow. You are the new projection champion. Really. You completely missed my point and made up a whole new angle that I am supposedly on.

The thing I reacted to in the beginning was your arrogant statement of there only ever having been a handful of people who were able to teach you something. In my reality that's bullshit. Pompous bullshit. Never said a word of bad about Dave. Why would I? Jesus.

This is true you have never said anything bad about Dave and I didnt claim you did so thumbs up

There we go again with "Your reality". Im speaking from my experience with learning useful information coming from a few people, its not arrogance. Im far from that. I offer a lot of my time to a lot of people. In no way am I saying someone else cant learn something from a thousand engineers, but you seem to think its absurb one person can only learn from a few. I dont get it.

Originally Posted by GJ999x

@modernmixing: Great vids btw, will def. be checking those out in more detail. Nice site as well (that ferric tape thing isnt available on AU though if i remember rite....)

Thanks dude!!

AU, dont think so.

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by ModernMixing

....... but you seem to think its absurb one person can only learn from a few. I dont get it.

Yes, I do. And no, you don't. Your loss on both counts. No probs, best wishes.

[The Aristocrat]

I think the wording of something may have thrown Karloff off, I think he meant to say that he "has" only learned from a few people as opposed to "can".

Nevertheless great video OP.