Recording in Ableton

[jbird712]

And it should be "pro's" not Leo's in the 3rd paragraph haha

[bigblessin]

Ableton has fixed that problem with delay compensation. Truth be told it is all about labling. Pro tools is the standard because it is a brand that has been around for a while. Ableton is fully capable of mixing full projects because I have been doing so with it for 5 years. Ableton workflow is different than traditional daws, so many think it is not worthy. One thing that I would say ableton should do is have the capability of having session and clip view on different screens. Other than that ableton is a beast.

[krushing]

Also - there's no comping system in place to handle multiple takes effectively. I only use Live, and that's something that's clearly missing from there. With vocals it'd be super useful. Not that it can't be done, but basically it requires a lot of manual work atm.

Originally Posted by jbird712

And it should be "pro's" not Leo's in the 3rd paragraph haha

Should be "pros", actually

[MONSTA_ONE]

Originally Posted by krushing

Also - there's no comping system in place to handle multiple takes effectively. I only use Live, and that's something that's clearly missing from there. With vocals it'd be super useful. Not that it can't be done, but basically it requires a lot of manual work atm.



Should be "pros", actually

are you a pro typo checker ? j/k

[raffael77]

Originally Posted by bigblessin

Ableton has fixed that problem with delay compensation. Truth be told it is all about labling. Pro tools is the standard because it is a brand that has been around for a while. Ableton is fully capable of mixing full projects because I have been doing so with it for 5 years. Ableton workflow is different than traditional daws, so many think it is not worthy. One thing that I would say ableton should do is have the capability of having session and clip view on different screens. Other than that ableton is a beast.

I agree with this.

Ableton is good as any other daw.

[rakim87]

Originally Posted by bigblessin

Ableton has fixed that problem with delay compensation. Truth be told it is all about labling. Pro tools is the standard because it is a brand that has been around for a while. Ableton is fully capable of mixing full projects because I have been doing so with it for 5 years. Ableton workflow is different than traditional daws, so many think it is not worthy. One thing that I would say ableton should do is have the capability of having session and clip view on different screens. Other than that ableton is a beast.

PDC doesn't fix the issue. this has been an ongoing complaint on the ableton forum. It's mainly just an issue with live performance though... ironically...

[Moraha]

I'm not saying you can't do everything in Ableton, but I think it's strength is beatmaking and DJing. Every DAW as has primary target audience. As long as the layout in Ableton is the way it is, people won't use it as much for recording even if it might be easier.

I mean it's the same type of thing the other way around. You can make beats with Pro Tools, Logic, Reaper, etc...but the way they're laid out makes it more comfortable to mix and record than anything else (in my opinion).

I can tell you that Ableton's direct competitor is FL Studio (and Bitwig when that comes out) because they're clearly primarily for beatmaking.

[jbird712]

Originally Posted by Moraha

I'm not saying you can't do everything in Ableton, but I think it's strength is beatmaking and DJing. Every DAW as has primary target audience. As long as the layout in Ableton is the way it is, people won't use it as much for recording even if it might be easier.

I mean it's the same type of thing the other way around. You can make beats with Pro Tools, Logic, Reaper, etc...but the way they're laid out makes it more comfortable to mix and record than anything else (in my opinion).

I can tell you that Ableton's direct competitor is FL Studio (and Bitwig when that comes out) because they're clearly primarily for beatmaking.

To go along with this, why are the instruments in Ableton not used so much. I always hear sounds from logic and reason used in professional tracks, but rarely (if ever) do I recognize an Ableton sound. As you said Ableton is the best beatmaking daw out there, but is there any reason other programs are used more often for the instruments?

[baskervils]

No delay issues in Ableton with large sessions. Never.

[MONSTA_ONE]

cant wait in till push / abeltion 9 comes out .. anyone know of a date ?

[Led Music]

Well you got one happy Ableton Live user here and i'm quite happy with its mixing capabilities and sound quality.
Find me a perfect DAW and we could end this debate. But their isn't one.
Use what works best for you and fits your needs.
For me, Ableton is an awesome tool and has yet to let me down. (Although I do like the faders in Pro Tools a lot more)
I do like the ability of Pro Tools to load up as many tracks and what type of tracks you wants instantly before you start a session. Thats one of the features I did appreciate in Pro Tools as well.

Josh

[KevWest]

I use Live and Reason because I want to. Other people use what they use because they want to. Its really that simple.

[raffael77]

Originally Posted by Led Music

Well you got one happy Ableton Live user here and i'm quite happy with its mixing capabilities and sound quality.
Find me a perfect DAW and we could end this debate. But their isn't one.
Use what works best for you and fits your needs.
For me, Ableton is an awesome tool and has yet to let me down. (Although I do like the faders in Pro Tools a lot more)
I do like the ability of Pro Tools to load up as many tracks and what type of tracks you wants instantly before you start a session. Thats one of the features I did appreciate in Pro Tools as well.

Josh

I have a mail sent to Ableton about the problem that you cannot load multi-tracks and he/she liked the idea so much that he went directly to the developers.


I hope they wil change it soon.

[mat1]

As mentioned earlier comping multiple takes is an absolute nightmare in Ableton. For simple things it's fine but I wouldn't want to try and record a big vocal session in it!

I doubt that will ever change..

Workflow wise I'd either see how you get on with it or get used to recording final vox in something else.

Me personally I work up to final demo level in Ableton. Then when it's time to redo the vocals properly I bounce the instrumental to PT and do them there.

Pro Tools seems built for editing audio, the workflow is great!

[mat1]

Originally Posted by jbird712

To go along with this, why are the instruments in Ableton not used so much. I always hear sounds from logic and reason used in professional tracks, but rarely (if ever) do I recognize an Ableton sound. As you said Ableton is the best beatmaking daw out there, but is there any reason other programs are used more often for the instruments?

I bet electronic producers use Ableton sounds as a base to build from all the time.

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by jbird712

To go along with this, why are the instruments in Ableton not used so much. I always hear sounds from logic and reason used in professional tracks, but rarely (if ever) do I recognize an Ableton sound. As you said Ableton is the best beatmaking daw out there, but is there any reason other programs are used more often for the instruments?

I'm sure a lot of people use them.