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Old 11th December 2012   #1
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need help with rms levels!!!

so i like to limit my track form -9 to - 10 db as i realized thats the norm for most songs out today. ken lewis does this as well and thats where i learned it from.

now whats an accurate rms meter that i could use? i had a track at between -9 and -10 using t-racks meter. when i tried in voxengo span its not in the same rms, inspector xl, and tt dynamic range dont hit between -9 and -10 db like it does when ii set it up using the meters in t-racks.

whats an accurate rms meter and what am i doing wrong with the meters? why isnt it the same as the t-racks? also is there a meter that shows the average rms for a track and doesnt disappear? most rms meters shows the average but you have to watch the meter and see what comes up the most. i want something that shows the average rms in a certain part of the plugin and it doesnt go away until i reset it. i can just play the track/project and figure out the average by looking at the plugin once.
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Brainworx bx meter works pretty well.

https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/p.../bx_meter.html

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Brainworx bx meter works pretty well.

https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/p.../bx_meter.html

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TT dynamic range meter. Free too at KVR, I think. Google it.
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voxengo elephant has a reset-able rms meter and is a great limiter to boot
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I would suggest TRacks 3 Metering. It has RMS, but it also has a really nifty perceived loudness meter suggestion, which is more dependent on how the ear perceives sound. Furthermore, it has some "preset ranges" coloured green and red, to get an idea where the loudness of most music within a specific genre is.
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the problem with 'RMS' and different plug-ins is they may use different 'integration' time...
this is a decent one where you can set RMS window/time...
Blue Cat's Digital Peak Meter Pro
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the problem with 'RMS' and different plug-ins is they may use different 'integration' time...
this is a decent one where you can set RMS window/time...
Blue Cat's Digital Peak Meter Pro
Is there an "optimal" integration time for RMS metering?
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You want to make sure you're using the AES17 RMS standard. Essentially RMS +3. This is really the only way to measure RMS properly.
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Is there an "optimal" integration time for RMS metering?
50ms
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The stock phase scope in Protools
can be switched to RMS and always sit on the master fader!
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