Layering drums over vinyl breaks???

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by pjonthetrack.com

I have a lot of vinyl drum breaks and I would like to beef them up by layering them with my own drums.

I would like to know if there is a right or wrong way to do this?

What are some techniques do you use to make drums breaks bump harder & crisper.

Thanks in advance.

Sampling these records with a decent setup/stylus and cartridge, and RIAA phono preamplifier. Sometimes I like to send the output through a nice preamplifier, and/or analog hardware chain. Though mostly, I like to process the tracks later in mixing. Taking it off a nice record into a nice converter is a good start for me. I have a Denon Table with a line/phono output - as well as a SPDIF output. Sometimes its cool to send the SPDIF output right into the Interface. Its certainly cleaner that way.

I think layering is cool, you can put a couple different sounds in the sampler and trigger them at once. Change the Attack and Release of them. Filter them differently. Try to EQ/compress them differently, and blend the overall into your context. I really just like keeping it simple. If I don't like the sound I got, I dig for another one. Lately, I have been recording samples with real drummers, and chopping the grooves up for my own repurposing.

[Dor]

909 hit layered under break kick works well.

[aproblem]

there's no right or wrong way to do it..line up the transients, shift em around..record yourself triggering drums live over the loop, than adjust, etc.

[eldorado_p]

No right or wrong way really. You're probably gonna need to eq some lows out of the break to make room for the kick your adding. But not always. Just experiment. It's more about using your ears and picking the right drums that compliment the break. Just experiment and don't worry if you're doing something wrong if its sounds good to you that's all that matters

[DESERT_HEAD]

well what i do is make sure the break lines exactly with the drums you want to layer over, thats a a given. so they dont phase and can hit a lil harder

[DAH]

Frequency depending triggering is used as well

[KT1]

Originally Posted by DAH

Frequency depending triggering is used as well

What does this mean D?

[DAH]

Originally Posted by KT1

What does this mean D?

Like filtering the break to several bands and triggering different notes from each band. Google KTD drum trigger. BTW Whats been up? If u have some time jump on skype now

[medearis]

I do this EVERY TIME I USE A BREAK (even ones that I record myself drumming originally).
Never put a second thought into it... usually it just sounds better to me.

It is so cool to take a strong break that already has some groove, chop it, lay it back down how you want and then ADD your own ghost notes to it (as an example). Dude, might as well be practicing voodoo because once you got good ghost notes you'll have the whole cemetery rockin' out.

Do it. Don't think twice about it.
If it doesn't sound right, it's not.


Peace!