31st October 2012
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#1 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Mar 2012 Location: California
Posts: 178
Thread Starter | Hard drive overloaded
I use my MacBook Pro for all of my music production. Before getting into production, my laptop was being used to store my 500+ full length albums in iTunes. I like this idea because I can use the songs I have for sampling and playing with my NS7 turntables. However, after installing the enormous amount of sound library's and softwares for producing my laptop seems overloaded. I had to delete song thing just to fully install Omnisphere and now I'm having problems like crashes and a slow computer. Should I delete all my music on iTunes and keep them on an external drive? Also, I already upgraded my RAM and that didn't really make much of a difference. It still crashes sometimes and runs slow. Are there any suggestions on how I can make my MacBook Pro operate better? I want it to be used primarily for music production. Thanks guys
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31st October 2012
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#2 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 2,613
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2nd hard drive.
Move all the non production crap to the 2nd hard drive.
Simple
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31st October 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Philadelphia |
I believe you can put the actual application (omnisphere for example) on your hd and then put all the sounds on an external hd to clear up space.
Someone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
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31st October 2012
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#4 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2006
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^^^ If your hd is indeed full those are your solutions. How big is you HD whats it's formatted size and how much is used?
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31st October 2012
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#5 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2012 Location: Backwoods, Baby |
do yourself a favour and get an ssd
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31st October 2012
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#6 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2008
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How does an SSD help his issue?? His problem is storage....an SSD is actually worse for storage for 2 reasons..
1 - It's cost per gb is still way higher than HDD and they still have not caught up in raw capacity size as well
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2 - it's failure rate make them pretty undependable as a storage medium....they are actually the worst storage medium.
If you are suggesting his getting an SSD for system drive...these things should be clarified..
I'd stay away from SSD honestly...I've been through about 7 of them over the last 3 years...seriously...7 dead SSD's.
just get a 250gb HDD for your system drive..You could go smaller but the savings become diminishing once you go smaller....might as well get the best bang for your buck...
Put your system and studio files all on that drive...use the other for everything else.
And make sure you get one for backup too!
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31st October 2012
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#7 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2012 Location: Backwoods, Baby |
if he's changing his main drive anyway..
he'd do himself a favour by putting a 128-256 Gb SSD inside the mac
and get an hdd in a thunderbolt/usb3 external enclosure (an enclosure which you can open and change the drive is best if you wanna just upgrade it cheap) for storage.
thank me later
bye
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31st October 2012
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#8 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2012 Location: Backwoods, Baby |
ps. never store any important files on the os drive... just put your apps/programs there.. like Hobbs said
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31st October 2012
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#9 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2012 Location: Backwoods, Baby | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbs_Won
I'd stay away from SSD honestly...I've been through about 7 of them over the last 3 years...seriously...7 dead SSD's.
| are you using mac or pc?
on my pc not a single ssd has died
i've experienced one dead drive on an old macbook
but i thought it was just a bad quality drive (cheapest kingston, one of the first ssd models)
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31st October 2012
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#10 | | Moderator
Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney via London
Posts: 19,145
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Originally Posted by lemonsquash if he's changing his main drive anyway..
he'd do himself a favour by putting a 128-256 Gb SSD inside the mac
and get an hdd in a thunderbolt/usb3 external enclosure (an enclosure which you can open and change the drive is best if you wanna just upgrade it cheap) for storage.
thank me later
bye | That's pretty small for a system drive...I'd have a new system drive of 1TB. If he's struggling for space as is, going down to that size isn't going to help!
Get an SSD to stream Omnisphere from (external drive) - good.
Replace system drive with smaller drive, even if it is SSD - bad.
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31st October 2012
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#11 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2008
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Originally Posted by lemonsquash are you using mac or pc?
on my pc not a single ssd has died
i've experienced one dead drive on an old macbook
but i thought it was just a bad quality drive (cheapest kingston, one of the first ssd models) | PC... I've had 7 die
from cheap OCZ to Mushkins and Intels...
the first one I had I am sure I killed it because, 1 - I was running it on XP, which at the time I had no idea that you needed to align the partition. In addition, I was defragmenting the drive which is a huge no-no.
I just had an Intel mSATA die on me 2 weeks ago.
I'm just about done with them....
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31st October 2012
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#12 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2012 Location: Backwoods, Baby | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbs_Won PC... I've had 7 die
from cheap OCZ to Mushkins and Intels...
the first one I had I am sure I killed it because, 1 - I was running it on XP, which at the time I had no idea that you needed to align the partition. In addition, I was defragmenting the drive which is a huge no-no.
I just had an Intel mSATA die on me 2 weeks ago.
I'm just about done with them.... | guess I've been lucky with my OCZ Vertex's
I have two of them running win 7, defragmenting weekly.
Has been working well for about 2 years.
I didn't know people need so huge system drives.. I'm good with the 110 Gb I have for programs and system files. And about 3 T storage on other drives. just IMO, YMMV |
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31st October 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2006
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Logic ableton maschine omnisphere trillian and komplete 8 = where did my 750 gigs go hahaha ...a 128-256 gig drive in a daw I couldnt do it
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31st October 2012
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#14 | | Gear Head
Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Ohio
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In the Macintosh world, it's usually recommended to keep 10% of your system drive empty as OSX needs room to operate properly. Clearing out my drive when it's nearly full always makes my Mac much happier.
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31st October 2012
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#15 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL/Rotterdam, Netherlands
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If you have it, buy another MacBook Pro.
One for production and one for everything else.
If you don't, then as has been suggested, you'll need additional drives.
Move as much non-production stuff as you can to the additional drive(s).
Move soft synths like Omnisphere to the additional drive(s) also and have the sounds streamed from that drive. The reason is you don't want your system drive streaming samples and running the OS at the same time.
Ideally, you want a drive for the OS, a drive where your audio is written, a drive for streaming samples, and a backup drive.
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31st October 2012
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#16 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2011 Location: Chicago
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I actually use a 128 SSD as my os drive and a external 500gb usb drive in my macbook. The performance difference is amazing. Logic runs way smoother now without all the crashes I used to experience. In my own opinion to have your daw and os only SSD is the way to go now a days. That being said I do always make sure to back up all my important stuff on my external all the time.
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31st October 2012
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#17 | | Moderator
Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney via London
Posts: 19,145
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Originally Posted by Classicbeats101 I actually use a 128 SSD as my os drive and a external 500gb usb drive in my macbook. The performance difference is amazing. Logic runs way smoother now without all the crashes I used to experience. In my own opinion to have your daw and os only SSD is the way to go now a days. That being said I do always make sure to back up all my important stuff on my external all the time. | Logic will certainly load quicker...but a lack of crashes isn't due to disk speed.
Plenty of people run DAWs without SSDs - just about all commercial studios for example! I agree if you DON'T need a large system drive, then it's a useful thing to have.
And yeah...back up your stuff guys, it's just not worth it not to!
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1st November 2012
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#18 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Jeff Ling In the Macintosh world, it's usually recommended to keep 10% of your system drive empty as OSX needs room to operate properly. Clearing out my drive when it's nearly full always makes my Mac much happier. | This and Make sure you get a 7200rpm speed or higher... On the external I'd make sure it's 7200 and FireWire 800.
I personally don't fux with the SSD's yet. Too expensive for me.
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