30th October 2012
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#1 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 167
Thread Starter | are hardware mpc's now discontinued?
first the 5000 and 2500 now the 1000 is gone? whats going on with akai? will they be making something new?
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30th October 2012
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#2 | | Gear Head
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 51
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Hopefully they come out with a hybrid unit. One that can be used standalone and then u could connect to a pc/mac and use like the ren.
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30th October 2012
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#3 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 233
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They probably gave up on hardware samplers?
Maybe Roland has too?
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31st October 2012
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#4 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 167
Thread Starter |
It just doesn't make any sense, there is still demand for the 1000 especially. and they are already set up to make them... there is so much aftermarket support for the product.
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31st October 2012
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#5 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2010 Location: pacific northwest
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akai doesnt give a shit about those machines anymore and its really sad.
although all the new aftermarket stuff coming out for the 1k and the 2500 is really awesome. akai really dropped the ball on this, but its super awesome that we do have aftermarket people who care.
check out the xlcd screen for the 1k and 2500 that mpcstuff.com teamed up with the dudes that wrote the jjos are making, i think after a couple more updates it will be fantastic.
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31st October 2012
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#6 | | Gear addict
Joined: Sep 2010
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I love to get the ASQ10
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31st October 2012
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#7 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 244
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Originally Posted by MattmaN They probably gave up on hardware samplers?
Maybe Roland has too? | Roland has Fantom and SP404/555.
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31st October 2012
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#8 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2012 Location: Backwoods, Baby |
buy em second hand.
theres plenty around at good prices.
I have a 500 laying in dust but i'll keep it just in case...
in 10 yrs they'll probably cost as much as sp's
and the sp1200 will cost more than your house and car
LOL
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31st October 2012
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#9 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,384
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are you sure the 1000/2500/5000 are discontinued? they still appear on the akai proucts site. i do think akai is entering a new era with their new line. being an old school head myself rocking the 60/2000xl/sp1200, i'd love to see new standalone/hybrid MP's and maybe we'll see some in the future, not too concerned over the phasing out of the above nukai models, was never too fond of them anyways..
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31st October 2012
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#10 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 194
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Originally Posted by xanax are you sure the 1000/2500/5000 are discontinued? they still appear on the akai proucts site. i do think akai is entering a new era with their new line. being an old school head myself rocking the 60/2000xl/sp1200, i'd love to see new standalone/hybrid MP's and maybe we'll see some in the future, not too concerned over the phasing out of the above nukai models, was never too fond of them anyways.. | They aren't even in the new Sweetwater catalog. The 5000 and 2500 were discontinued a while ago. The 5000 in late August and the 2500 last year.
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31st October 2012
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#11 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jul 2009 Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 144
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I wish Yamaha did a new workstation like SU700/RS7000
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31st October 2012
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#12 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 155
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They just came out with the akai ren. They probably will just test out the hybrid controller and then bring out a hardware later. Roland will jump in there I am sure they were ahead of their time with the mv and the features that box had. I kind of like when pieces are discontinued and old, because for one I don't buy new and I when they are discontinued I can find them at blowout used prices. I don't care technology I care about making music
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31st October 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Lake Charles
Posts: 1,446
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I think hardware is done. If it was profitable they would still be coming out with new versions at all the various price points.
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31st October 2012
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#14 | | Gear Head
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 51
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Well Akai will do what's the most profitable. I'm sure most of us would buy a hybrid unit. Personally I think that would sell like hotcakes.
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31st October 2012
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#15 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2012
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man im thinking of selling my 5000, I wonder if there is a demand for that after the ren came out, and it doesnt have as much "color" as a 60 or a 2000xl
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31st October 2012
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#16 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011 Location: Bronx ,NY
Posts: 1,284
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Originally Posted by Cam Citi man im thinking of selling my 5000, I wonder if there is a demand for that after the ren came out, and it doesnt have as much "color" as a 60 or a 2000xl | Someone will buy it. It might take a few weeks but I sold mine. I had to eat about $200 though. Better now than later.
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1st November 2012
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#17 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Bay Area, California
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There's so many second hand, and I don't see what else they can really do but go itb. They already have so many features and models if you need anything else it's you not the machine. Just got the mpc ren and while not perfect it's awesome and I understand in the wide scope of things this is all new for music
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1st November 2012
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#18 | | Gear Head
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 62
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What if SP-404 and Kaospad/Kaossilator had a baby?
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1st November 2012
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#19 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,221
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but, is the mpc hardware to begin with?
isn't the mpc just a computer running software?
dedicated, but still a computer running software.
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1st November 2012
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#20 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2012
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man ive been torn for about 2 months on this, I love my 5000 I bought it B stock and it came with an Akai Miniak,some bass heavy headphones, and 4 off brand mics that have never made it outta my closet, all for around $1200 then I bought the expansion memory, i spent 6 months on only that+motif rack, im just so attached.... but i feel like theres no reason i really need it, and i make beats faster on reason so i pretty much use that now,
now if i could sell it and buy a 60, i would i just dont know where to find one!!
@beatyoudown its hardware because it produces an analog signal independently IMO, otherwise the virus would be software too, but i see people argue that all the time
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1st November 2012
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#21 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,384
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Originally Posted by beat you down but, is the mpc hardware to begin with?
isn't the mpc just a computer running software?
dedicated, but still a computer running software. | a computer is hardware that can run software, so yes the mpc fits that description (your iphone/ipad as well fwiw) a controller however has more in common with a usb mouse or keyboard |
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1st November 2012
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#22 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,221
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Originally Posted by Cam Citi ...@beatyoudown its hardware because it produces an analog signal independently IMO, otherwise the virus would be software too, but i see people argue that all the time | a sampler is digital.
or...
then my laptop is hardware?
it produces an analog signal independently.
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1st November 2012
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#23 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Jan 2012 Location: Chicago
Posts: 295
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U guys are lames with ur precise definitions
U kno what the diff is nerd
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1st November 2012
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#24 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 390
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Originally Posted by lemonsquash buy em second hand.
theres plenty around at good prices.
I have a 500 laying in dust but i'll keep it just in case...
in 10 yrs they'll probably cost as much as sp's
and the sp1200 will cost more than your house and car
LOL | i dont think the 500 will every be a premium gear
not like the 3k, the 60 or the sp
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1st November 2012
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#25 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 5,221
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Originally Posted by Below Zero U guys are lames with ur precise definitions
U kno what the diff is nerd | don't know, i think it's lame people think a sampler is analog gear.
these type of misconceptions fuel ignorant hard vs soft debates.
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1st November 2012
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#26 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Lake Charles
Posts: 1,446
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Stages of Mojo:
1. discrete valve circuit
2. discrete transistor circuit
3. IC analog circuits
4. low bit/sample rate digital with analog filter
6. high bit/sample rate digital with digital filter
7. pure ITB software
As you can see, the MPC line ranks pretty poorly on the "mojo scale" for hardware.
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2nd November 2012
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#27 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 99
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Cool. Now with time, my mpc1k will become vintage/old school and develope a "sound" that everyone will fiend for. It will resell for thousands!
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2nd November 2012
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#28 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,266
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Originally Posted by derpydoo Cool. Now with time, my mpc1k will become vintage/old school and develope a "sound" that everyone will fiend for. ! | Your making me want it Quote: |
It will resell for thousands
| Maybe not/
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2nd November 2012
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#29 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland
Posts: 396
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Just a sign of the times. Fully hardware samplers like the mpc are becoming niche now because the demands of music is for records to easily get mixed and pushed onto the web as soon as possible...notice all the soundcloud integration getting placed in DAWs and music apps?
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3rd November 2012
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#30 | | Lives for beer
Joined: Feb 2011 Location: tdot
Posts: 959
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I think they should make a hardware/software combo mpc....
fully standalone with all features available on the unit, with the ability to plug via usb to drag/drop samples back/forth, sequence, automate, save/load to pc via vst+app.....
but still only audio out via hardware
id buy that in a second
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