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Old 23rd October 2012   #1
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What would I need to get into scratch djing?

So I've been producing for a while and I would love to begin to learn how to do scratch turntablelism. I already have a bunch of vinyl from which I've sampled and a ttusb turntable but,
I would like to know some good gear to buy for a first setup stuff that I hopefully won't have to be upgraded.

So any suggestions for a mixer two turntables and a pre amp. Nothing too expensive was planning on buying all the gear used.
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Stanton M203 mixer is a battle/scratch mixer. It costs less than $100 new. I have 1 Stanton T.62 turntable. Another T.62 & the M203 are being shipped to me now. The reviews for the mixer online says that it is great for scratching. The other mixer I wanted by Vestax, everybody online in their review said that I needed to buy the crossfader upgrade if I wanted to scratch (for the cheapest Vestax scratching mixer).

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8:10 is when he finally recommends brands. He didn't mention Stanton but he also didn't say not to buy it like he said about the Gemini, Numark and Behringers. Stanton mixers had good reviews and they were in the same price range as the Numarks (I realy want a Rane mixer but it is really expensive).
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Make sure that you turntable is direct drive and not belt driven. Make sure that the tone arm is straight and not a S shaped tone arm. Also, put your turntables in the battle position with the tone arms at the back like this pic.

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Good advice but do you actually have any experience doing this or are you just beginning too? Thanks anyways though.
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i started to dj back in 2003 or 2004 on vinyl. back then i could only scratch. i learned how to mix this year on cdj's and traktor s2.
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Ohh nice anyways was thinking on getting Numark ttx's are these any good? Hopefully can score a set for under 500
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I'm not sure. the only vinyl turntables i am familiar with are technics. i really want a pair but they are expensive. i have stanton now because my roommate moved back to the states from korea and gave me his turntable because he didn't want to carry or ship it back to the states. that's why i ordered the matching turntable.
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Numark TTX are great turntables. I have a set at the moment. Also worth considering are Stanton 150s, I have owned a pair in the past and they were fantastic. IMO the stantons are better then technics, but you'll ever here a technics owner say that.

All you need to look for in turntables is a direct-drive, and high tourqe. 4kg+ of torque is standard these days. American Audio also make a good turntable, as do a few other brands. I'm pretty sure all pro turntables except the numarks come out of the same factory.

The Xone:22 would be my recomendation for an entry level scratch mixer. And after you've given the stock crossfader a good flogging you can upgrade it to an Innofader.
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Hey thanks for all the tips I'm def looking forward to venturing into turntablelism

I'm gonna shop round see if I can get the best set of tables for the money I got the 150s are outta my range at $1200 for a pair but I have heard they are really good.
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Most of the DJ's I knew were using a pair of Technics SL-1200 MK2. Unfortunately they stopped producing it so you could try to get a pair of used ones. Even if they are old and used they are pretty solid. E.g. we dropped one accidently from aprox 1m height in front of a club (it felt on a stone floor) and it worked like a charm afterwards.

Stanton was the most used system in my circle of friends for scratching purposes.

The mixer changed from artist to artist as long it had gain control, a crossfader, a 3 band EQ, perhaps some additional killswitches, some kind of on/off thingy or phono/line switches for an easy transform scratch and perhaps a hamster switch. It´s all about "how fluid" the faders were and the persistance of the components (and the their replacements).

And dont forget 2 slipmats. Additionaly you can put some kind of plastic foil (eg. from a trash bag) between them and the platter.
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So any recommendations on entry level mixers?
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Sry but I have to correct my post from above about the systems/needle. It wasn´t Stanton but Sure.

If I remember correctly they had those.

About an entry level mixer...hmm. I think it´s a matter of taste. If I were you I would concentrate on the best pair of turntables and systems I could afford. This will be your bread & butter. It doesn´t matter if you are new or a pro. If you have the best (or at least a good pair of those) turntables then you won´t need another pair of them for the next 20 years.

After that concentrate on a "cheap" but good mixer. Cheap because you are new and perhaps have to learn a lot. Not only about the different techniques but more about the feeling of your faders, the range of them, the sensitivity etc. After you have some experience and hopefully know what you prefer you can search for an upper class mixer with those experiences in mind like "I did not like my old faders because of this or that" or "damn, my old mixer hat some really bad noise after 2 weeks of practice". This might save you some money.

I would do it that way. I hope this helps a little bit.

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Just a clarification why I could only recommend Technics turntables(related to the post of roflmao).

Back in the days (1990 - ) when I started DJing (not scratching) the SL1200 MKII were all over the place. Nearly every club had a pair of them. I wrote nearly because for example a club called "Front" in Hamburg (one of the most important places in Germany/Europe when it comes to House music, Boris Dlugosch was resident DJ there at that time) did not have them. They had a pair of Thorens. Double or four times the price of a Technics but really good. BUT as one of the most famous clubs at that time they had numerous international guest DJs and they were used to play on Technics and had some serious problems with that setup sometimes.

Long story made short: I don´t know what turntables are used the most nowadays but I would go for a pair of those if you plan to perform out of your studio. You won´t be able to take your own stuff with you every time. So it might come in handy if you at least know the behaviour of those turntables so the time to accustom yourself might be as short as possible.

Same goes for the other equipment like the mixer if you plan to perform on other setups than your own.

I hope this makes sense.

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As i mentioned in another post, Panasonic has discontinued their line of Technics turntables.
You can find them second hand, but if they break youre gonna have a hard time finding spare parts in a couple of years time.. The closest you will get is Imho the Stanton's new range.
Oh and dont spare any expense on the mixer, get a Rane, you wont regret it.

Believe me I've been through them all ; Ecler, Technics, Vestax, DMC Pmc02, Oldschool Numarks and even Citronic. Nothing comes close to the Rane quality.
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As i mentioned in another post, Panasonic has discontinued their line of Technics turntables.
You can find them second hand, but if they break youre gonna have a hard time finding spare parts in a couple of years time.. The closest you will get is Imho the Stanton's new range.
Oh and dont spare any expense on the mixer, get a Rane, you wont regret it.

Believe me I've been through them all ; Ecler, Technics, Vestax, DMC Pmc02, Oldschool Numarks and even Citronic. Nothing comes close to the Rane quality.
i learned how to dj on my friend's rane and i LOVE it. i just wish i had $700 for one.
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Those $100 Stanton mixers will be great to get started. The fader action is good. If you abuse it properly, you'll wear out the crossfader within a year.

Also, if you're just tryin' to get good at scratchin', grab 1 table at a time. You can run another audio source into the side you aren't scratchin' on.

I have 2 Technics 1200's and a Rane TTi54. I've been messin' with turntables since '97. I've spun countless Raves, import car shows and hip hop clubs, not to mention DJ'n for rap artists. Oh yeah, my Techs have S arms and it doesn't make a flippin difference.
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2 SL mk II's. battle records, a reversed crossfader and a minimum of 3 years solid practice I'm affraid. Start with the baby, chrip & stabs
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So I bought a rane ttm52 mojo mixer for 90$ and am wondering what's your guys thoughts on this purchase?
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Typically you ask questions before you buy.

What does it matter now? You bought it. LOL.

Rane is a very good company. The 52 is about 10 years old now but still a great mixer.
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Lol I guess so man that's sure old though but it will do the trick I'm sure I also just bough 1 numark ttx
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