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Old 14th October 2012   #1
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Creating drum kits for sale?

I'm not saying I'm going to do that.
I just got a question about something.
Johnny Juliano just posted this on his Facebook;

"Lol @ ppl selling drum kits by putting other ppl's sounds together.. cmon guys it's not that difficult.. remember that metadata!"

I guess he means whoever did this just put together a collection of drum sounds without processing them at all and trying to sell it as a whole. Therefore, the original file names are still in the metadata (whatever that is lol, I'm no computer wiz), and you can still see it.

Let's say I wanted to make a drum kit so I can sell. Am I allowed to take a kick I got from, let's say, a Goldbaby kit, add compression/eq/distort/etc to it, bounce it down as a new wav file, and call it mine?

Would this erase whatever was on the original metadata?

What the heck is a metadata anyway?

Like I said, I don't plan on doing this.. JJ's post just made me curious.
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It would erase the metadata. Metadata is the info about the file such as name , type or artist....

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If you take a kick and tweak it and make it sound different then it would therefor be a different sound. Your sound. May not want to tell people where it came from and was created though.
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Am I allowed to take a kick I got from, let's say, a Goldbaby kit, add compression/eq/distort/etc to it, bounce it down as a new wav file, and call it mine?
No. Not if you want to redistribute and/or sell it. Almost all (if not all) EULAs specify that you can not take the samples, and create a new library from them. One ex:

You may not, and you agree not to, or to enable others to, copy, decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, decrypt, modify, or create derivative works of the Software or any part thereof.

And another:

Reproduction or duplication of these collections, or any of the sound recordings contained therein, either as they exist on the discs, or by any means of reformatting, mixing, filtering, re-synthesizing, processing, or otherwise editing for use in another product or for resale, is strictly prohibited.

If you ever come across an EULA that does not say that or something similiar, then you can, but I know of none that allow this.

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Makes sense.

Cool.
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Its all a circus anyway. Do it for beer money. Take two kicks, one for the low end, one for the high, saturate them, bitcrush to 16, add some anolog warmth. Are they going to get an audio forensic to analyse your pack? No, they're too busy making money off lazy "producers".

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lmao @ audio forensics

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There is such a thing. CIA shiet, but reality. They analyse frequency, not music. I seen on another thread there is some very crazy stuff happening in audio forensics. They can establish locality by analysing frequencies given off by the power source that feeds your gear that differ geographically. And build a pretty good description of a person just from his recorded voice through analysis of the timbre of voice in relation to cranial harmonics inside the skull establishing a ripple effect of an algorithm drawing a 3d sketch of the dude. Or some shite:D

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JJ talkin bout them busters taking the lex 808 and renaming it and claiming it as there own lol.

JJ has pretty abysmal kits, I don't know why he's laughing.
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Johnny juliano sounds like a fashion designers name anyway. And if it was 808's, you know where they originally came from right?

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JJ talkin bout them busters taking the lex 808 and renaming it and claiming it as there own lol.

JJ has pretty abysmal kits, I don't know why he's laughing.
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And if it was 808's, you know where they originally came from right?

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a cracked copy of FL??
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JJ kits is good he actually learned sound design n audio engineerin himself Johnny Juliano is right all these kids def on soundclick take a kit, rename it to there prod name (ex: LV Hi-Hat #1) n they claim its all theirs when all they doin is renamin, may add one eq, reverb, etc it sound just like every other kit on soundclick, youtube, internet, etc and they say its theirs, they mixed it, they recorded it, etc but in reality none of them learn sound design like some ppl and when they do its nothin impressive.... jj actually learned to make synths, drums, etc with his vst's (and synthersizer's before he sold all them)
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Woot!!
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Yeah man if you change the sound and tweak it its all yours!
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