in Russia, silence hours are 10 PM- 7 AM. Just obey that and no ****ing body (except those with littke kids) cannot say anything against it. The babies - to me raising them is more noble and whatever than making urban music in an apartment.
BTW acoustically if your monitoring chain is deep enough what is 75 db in YOUR mix spotmight be 80+ db in the lows in the neighbour`s apartment. These are the laws of acoustics....
I've been in this situation before and if I was in it again I would probably get some auratone mixcubes. Mostly of what your neighbor is probably complaining about is the low end. So, save your mixing with a sub etc for a time you can turn it up.
I appreciate the headphone suggestions. Since posting we went and talked to the neighbors. They were nice, and understanding, and found out that it was less the living room mixing set up, but more my roommates computer speaker subwoofer sitting on the floor directly above their room. I will check out the beyerdynamics though, as I was interested in them anyways, just could never find any retailer that has them to demo.
I guess just talking can solve problems. A lot of good, and funny suggestions though guys. Glad half of you aren't my neighbors lol
I think there's better headphones if your forced to use them. The m50s are very muddy and has excessive bass. Very good for judging the lowend but will not result in great mixes. Get a more flat, clearer headphones.
Man, I am amazed at the selfishness here. No one has the right to invade somebody's privacy and peace of mind in their own living space with noise. Period. Use a real recording studio if you want real results. Or mix with 7506's or whatever.
I believe in courtesy, which means turning it down after 9pm. that said, silence is not a right, it's a privilege. If you want silence, you have to pay more for a place with soundproof walls, or live in a house. The city is noisy. Apartment living is noisy.
Most peoples TVs are loud as hell, but for some reason people get more offended by music.
In my place, you can hear conversations through the wall. When I do music, I am aware of this and try not to be a dick or a clown about it. I haven't gotten any complaints in 9 years.
I think there's better headphones if your forced to use them. The m50s are very muddy and has excessive bass. Very good for judging the lowend but will not result in great mixes. Get a more flat, clearer headphones.
Yea I didn't like the m50's all that much. Ordered the 880 pro Beyer's, they should be here in a couple days, if not i'll send them back and try something else like AKG 701's.
Yea I didn't like the m50's all that much. Ordered the 880 pro Beyer's, they should be here in a couple days, if not i'll send them back and try something else like AKG 701's.
I just ordered a pair of both lol. (m50's and 880's). One for tracking, one for listening
I appreciate the headphone suggestions. Since posting we went and talked to the neighbors. They were nice, and understanding, and found out that it was less the living room mixing set up, but more my roommates computer speaker subwoofer sitting on the floor directly above their room. I will check out the beyerdynamics though, as I was interested in them anyways, just could never find any retailer that has them to demo.
I guess just talking can solve problems. A lot of good, and funny suggestions though guys. Glad half of you aren't my neighbors lol
Told ya...you would be amazed how far a little common decency gets you. If you're still there in a few years tell them that thier kid has some talent and maybe they'll hire you to record him/her lol
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that said, silence is not a right, it's a privilege. If you want silence, you have to pay more for a place with soundproof walls, or live in a house.
This is not true. EVERY apartment lease in existence (as well as commercial real-estate lease) contains a clause called "quiet enjoyment" or legal equivalent. You are legally obligated to enjoy your space as quietly as possible, as others have agreed to do the same.
This is not true. EVERY apartment lease in existence (as well as commercial real-estate lease) contains a clause called "quiet enjoyment" or legal equivalent. You are legally obligated to enjoy your space as quietly as possible, as others have agreed to do the same.
How is that not true? Silence is not the same as quiet enjoyment. Silence is an impossibility in the average, urban apartment. The noise ordinance in my city states that you shouldn't make noise that travels more than 50 feet during the night hours. That is not silence for me when my neighbor watches TV at midnight,
Most peoples TVs are loud as hell, but for some reason people get more offended by music.
It's true isn't it?
I guess because music is personal and deliberate, there is a rhythm to it, and usually features highly tuned bass.
Whereas TV is so random, low frequency has to be cutoff, it's culturally acceptable at most times of day/days of week, there is no rhythm to like or dislike. TV programming can get away with noise, but music has to have controlled and direct frequencies, which the brain can detect.
I'm sure there are other reasons why people accept a loud TV over loud music.
To answer your question, I've been mixing on (and off) cans for many years. In my opinion it can be done.
Panning
Some say you won't hear your stereo space properly and as a result, make incorrect panning decisions. I think that's a bit of bs. It will be different from what you hear on monitors but at the end of the day, most listeners don't give a rat's. Most listeners don't sit between two speakers that have been correctly spaced to enjoy the time you spent deciding if the hats should be at 60% left or 70% left lmao. Even in a car, they aren't in the middle. And if they listen on headphones, well... that's what you mixed them on, so odds are it will sound pretty good.
Still, many people place a lot of importance on this and I might just happen to be an idiot so it will be worth double checking your mixes on some monitors after.
Levels
This is where you are at risk. I've found it to be especially true with vocals. It is, for some reason, damn hard to judge the balance of a mix on cans. Always check your mix on monitors or some decent speakers afterwards (preferably both).
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I use a pair of 7506s with my iPod instead of earbuds and for tracking but I don't like them for mixing. I've tried a few different pairs but my all time favorites are the AKG K240s. (Now K240 mkII. Don't know if the sound has changed... hope not) Reputed for their transparency, $130 and if you treat'em nice, they'll last you a long time. As a bonus, the cable is replaceable, in case you get a short.
Ok so just an update, I got the 880 pro Beyer's from sweetwater, and tested out the headphone mixing concept by remixing an old mix from scratch in a new project. I mixed the track in mono on the phones to see if it would counteract the leveling issue people get in phones, then I switched the project to stereo for creating some physical space in the mix. I quick mix, but I must admit, that the mix did translate pretty damn well when I fired up the monitors. I did find things like the hats and snares were a little too crispy, but that was just a quick leveling/EQ fix. I even found that the mids were even a little cleaner than the original mix. Definitely think it's workable to mix in headphones, but I def will always have to check the monitors, just as most everyone has been saying.
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