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Old 2nd October 2012   #1
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Rap in anything other then 4/4

Can some of you post some rap music done in a different time signature then 4/4? Try to post the time signature as well if you know it.
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Make a 3/4 time track I've done it long ago pretty fun
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Eminem has one on the last album I believe - 6/8 is cool for the laid back feel it gives
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There's an extensive thread on this.
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Hip Hop with odd time signatures / tempo shifts
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Flo Rida "Right Round" is in 12/8.

You can count 3 syllables per beat:

1 2 3
"Top - of - the"

1 2 3
"watch - her - go"

Each bar still has the usual 4 beats. Kick/Snare/Kick/Snare, but each beat is divided by 3 instead of the usual 4 1/16th notes.

Rihana "SOS" and Katy Perry "Kissed a Girl" are also 12/8. Most DJs are ignorant of this and so try to mix them with 4/4 songs to disasterous results.
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The Roots have done a few songs in 6/8 time but I can't remember which ones.
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Nicki Minaj - Right Through Me

was a pretty big song I think it was 3/4
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Camron and his folks have done 3/4 in the past.
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I'm not sure what it is since I've never passed any music theory classes, but Hell Of A Life by Kanye is not 4/4

if I were to make an uneducated guess I would assume that would be an example of 12/8 ?
unless there's such thing as 6/4
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I'm not sure what it is since I've never passed any music theory classes, but Hell Of A Life by Kanye is not 4/4
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It's about as 4/4 as 4/4 can get!
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It's about as 4/4 as 4/4 can get!
are you sure? listen to the bassline, it plays 2 measures, then repeats the 2 measures, then 2 different measures, and then loops - same with the chorus, seems to be multiples of 6 - I don't think its quite 4/4
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are you sure? listen to the bassline, it plays 2 measures, then repeats the 2 measures, then 2 different measures, and then loops - same with the chorus, seems to be multiples of 6 - I don't think its quite 4/4
Hell Of A Life is in 4/4. 4/4 refers to the number of quarter note beats per measure. You are talking about phrase length. A song may be in 4/4 and have irregular phrases (Everlong by Foo Fighters is a classic example of a 7 bar phrase in pop music).

A crazier example is Hey Ya by Outkast which is in 4/4 but has one 2/4 bar in the middle of its 6 bar phrases!!

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There's lots of rap songs in 6/8 and 12/8 but to find a legitimate 3/4 is tough!!
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4/4 is where it's at!!
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are you sure? listen to the bassline, it plays 2 measures, then repeats the 2 measures, then 2 different measures, and then loops - same with the chorus, seems to be multiples of 6 - I don't think its quite 4/4
It's absolutely 4/4. Just because the bassline (or anything else) doesn't constantly repeat the same thing doesn't mean it changes the time signature.
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Well the funny thing about time signatures...

Turns out you can use pretty much any time signature you want for any song, you just have to write the notes out differently.

So arguing over what is what is rather pointless.

Now, that isn't to say songs don't get written with a time signature in mind (typically 4/4), but technically speaking there is nothing to confine you from changing that to ANYTHING/ANYTHING so long as you accurately transpose the timing notation.
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Well the funny thing about time signatures...

Turns out you can use pretty much any time signature you want for any song, you just have to write the notes out differently.

So arguing over what is what is rather pointless.

Now, that isn't to say songs don't get written with a time signature in mind (typically 4/4), but technically speaking there is nothing to confine you from changing that to ANYTHING/ANYTHING so long as you accurately transpose the timing notation.
That's true, but I think most musicians would agree on a basic "4/4" time signature for a standard mid tempo rap song. How difficult would it be if everyone had a different opinion of the time signature of a rap song with standard accents and rhythm at 88 bpm? It would be hard to communicate!
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De La Soul - Stakes is High.....3/4 timing

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?? What are you listening to? It's straight 4/4.
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De La Soul - Stakes is High.....3/4 timing
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It could be construed as a very slow 4/4, but I would agree and call it 3/4 because of the way the rap style is ... with the emphasis on every downbeat.
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