14th October 2012
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#121 | | Gear interested
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Was about one-hour into a dope beat I was crafting, went to copy a sequence, and CRASH. Crashes happen way too frequently for me to integrate the REN into my workflow... I mean I'm sure it was VST-related, and yes I should save frequently, but man is it frustrating to pay $1300 only to find out that the software isn't nearly as reliable as it should be.
I love the hardware! It's great, but I hope the software gets fixed up over the next few months, because as of now I have a $1300 drum pad, it's back to Live for me!
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14th October 2012
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#122 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2011 Location: Boogie Down
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Originally Posted by Jahrome  You can stop crying now as all major US retailers have them in stock as I type this. What is odd to be is one statement you are ranting about the Ren not being widely available...and then in the next breath calling those that purchase the Ren right away are paid beta testers.
You do realize that when most companies release a V1.0 of their software product that there is pretty much always an incremental update to fixe any bugs? I am hard pressed to find any music production product that didn't require an update to address bugs. | sp1200
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14th October 2012
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#123 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Jahrome You can stop crying now as all major US retailers have them in stock as I type this. What is odd to be is one statement you are ranting about the Ren not being widely available...and then in the next breath calling those that purchase the Ren right away are paid beta testers.
You do realize that when most companies release a V1.0 of their software product that there is pretty much always an incremental update to fixe any bugs? I am hard pressed to find any music production product that didn't require an update to address bugs. |
My gripe is not about them having it in stock...out of the 10+ stores I called, IIRC, only 2 DIDN'T have it in stock. My issue is with ALL the stores refusal to put them on the floor.
The closest I have come to an explanation by a manager is, and I quote this verbatim, "It's something to do with the software licensing from AKAI".
And that was it.
The fact is this...anybody who buys a piece of equipment that has NEVER hit the market before and never demo'd it....ARE PAYING BETA TESTERS. Quote: |
I am hard pressed to find any music production product that didn't require an update to address bugs.
| Nice, just push off any accountability on the consumer. As if it being an industry standard practice somehow absolves AKAI from blatantly exploiting consumerism. Classic double speak from you, Jah.
I bet the v1.1 changelog will speak volumes. And your talking point here will become painfully relative.
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14th October 2012
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#124 | | Gear Head
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I just hope version 1.1 brings in the export audio in mono. That should have been standard with 1.0
Why in the hell would I want to export a stereo stem of my kick drum:(
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14th October 2012
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#125 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca.
Posts: 9,415
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I'm not touching this thing until its doing a solid[rtas,etc] interface with Protools.
constant importing/ exporting -  | |
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14th October 2012
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#126 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by atlpd3147 I just hope version 1.1 brings in the export audio in mono. That should have been standard with 1.0
Why in the hell would I want to export a stereo stem of my kick drum:( | yeah +1.
makes absolutely zero sense having to always split files to mono.
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14th October 2012
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#127 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan by way of Pittsburgh, PA
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Originally Posted by Hobbs_Won My gripe....... | That is all you have done for the past 9 months. Obviously the Ren and Akai products in general are not for you. Get yourself a Maschine and be done with it......
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15th October 2012
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#128 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Planet Earth
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Originally Posted by RoundBadge yeah +1.
makes absolutely zero sense having to always split files to mono. | The most basic concept in mixing drums, was overlooked. I have taken the Ren off my list of things to do for now. This may change at some point if they address some things.
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#129 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan by way of Pittsburgh, PA
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Originally Posted by jrides The most basic concept in mixing drums, was overlooked. I have taken the Ren off my list of things to do for now. This may change at some point if they address some things. | Having MONO tracks is certainly needed IMO.
My work around is using the Ren as a plugin within my DAW. I route the Ren's drums to mono audio channels in the DAW.
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15th October 2012
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#130 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan by way of Pittsburgh, PA
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Originally Posted by atlpd3147 I just hope version 1.1 brings in the export audio in mono. That should have been standard with 1.0
Why in the hell would I want to export a stereo stem of my kick drum:( | If it was a stereo kick drum?
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15th October 2012
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#131 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Jahrome If it was a stereo kick drum? | oh yea because that's definitely the norm......  | |
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#132 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Hobbs_Won oh yea because that's definitely the norm...... | I can see a need for mono and stereo. I wouldn't be doing drums only if I copped it. However it is a drum controller.
With that said, ya'll appear to be going in on Jah, so Im gonna make my exit riiiiight about here lol.
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#133 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2006
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Originally Posted by RoundBadge Yeah sure.
that's certainly a workaround.
..only if it works in my DAW,which is Pro Tools 10HD.
[Avid Pro Tools - one of the most popular DAW's in the industry].
Does it?
Solidly?
or is it one of those vague promised "in the future updates" we may never see? | Currently there is no rtas/pt support but I honestly can't see them not rectifying that mistake that's a huge one
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15th October 2012
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#134 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jul 2012
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Originally Posted by DirtyMan Currently there is no rtas/pt support but I honestly can't see them not rectifying that mistake that's a huge one | it'll be there.
According to Akai tech support, we're days, maybe hours, away from the update.
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15th October 2012
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#135 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca.
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Originally Posted by DirtyMan Currently there is no rtas/pt support but I honestly can't see them not rectifying that mistake that's a huge one | Quote:
Originally Posted by IMAKEMADBEATS it'll be there.
According to Akai tech support, we're days, maybe hours, away from the update. | I'll believe it when its out there working rock solid.
till then I'll use something else.
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15th October 2012
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#136 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jul 2012
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Originally Posted by RoundBadge I'll believe it when its out there working rock solid.
till then I'll use something else. | I definitely respect that.
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16th October 2012
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#137 | | Lives for gear
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Oh yeah....
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16th October 2012
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#138 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by RoundBadge I'll believe it when its out there working rock solid.
till then I'll use something else. | I'm waiting as well
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16th October 2012
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#139 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2005
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Originally Posted by DirtyMan I'm waiting as well |
How will you get rock solid software when the OS there on is not rock solid?
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16th October 2012
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#140 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca.
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Originally Posted by TitaniumG How will you get rock solid software when the OS there is on is not rock solid? | then Akai will lose a LOT of sales to professional producer/engineers.
do or die,sink or swim,step up to the plate ..etc etc
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16th October 2012
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#141 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2005
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Originally Posted by RoundBadge I'll believe it when its out there working rock solid.
till then I'll use something else. | use what you got now rock solid will not happen in your life time. A boss drum machine is rock solid but you guys don't want that lol. What you guys probably want is 1 million nerdy things and with that come 1 million bugs.
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16th October 2012
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#142 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by RoundBadge then Akai will lose a LOT of sales to professional producer/engineers.
do or die,sink or swim,step up to the plate ..etc etc | You didn't answer the question so let me state it again. How will you get rock solid software if the OS there on is no stable?
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16th October 2012
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#143 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca.
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Originally Posted by TitaniumG You didn't answer the question so let me state it again. How will you get rock solid software if the OS there on is no stable? | why the hell are you asking me.
ask the designers.
I didn't design the thing.
I'm an end user.I'm on your side.
i want it to work
I use PT 10 everyday and i consider it rock solid.
I use it.its reliable.I get the invoices paid.
if it works I'll buy it.
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16th October 2012
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#144 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: East Bay, California
Posts: 70
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A little perspective Roundbadge relax lol. The moral of the story: be patient they will get this
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16th October 2012
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#145 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Smokey510 A little perspective Roundbadge relax lol. The moral of the story: be patient they will get this | totally relaxed.
personally don't care either way at this point.
I've been w/out the mpc workflow for years.
if they get it right,people will buy it.  | |
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16th October 2012
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#146 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: East Bay, California
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16th October 2012
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#147 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Seoul, Korea
Posts: 161
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Originally Posted by Smokey510  Hello Gearslutz i am a time traveller from the not so distant future. Lately we have been using Akai Software OS rev 3.9 & it is absolutely ROCK SOLID!!! It does everything that u guys complain about & MORE!!! Be patient... I have SEEN the future & it is beautiful!!! Back 2 these beats  | how many times do i have to tell you to quit borrowing my delorean?
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16th October 2012
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#148 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: East Bay, California
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Originally Posted by djloekee27 how many times do i have to tell you to quit borrowing my delorean? | You left the keys & I didn't end up on Bait Car lol  | |
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16th October 2012
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#149 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2012
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Originally Posted by TitaniumG You didn't answer the question so let me state it again. How will you get rock solid software if the OS there on is no stable? | stop the nonsense. theres all kinds of bugs reported on macs as well.  | |
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16th October 2012
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#150 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 300
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Originally Posted by RoundBadge why the hell are you asking me.
ask the designers.
I didn't design the thing.
I'm an end user.I'm on your side.
i want it to work
I use PT 10 everyday and i consider it rock solid.
I use it.its reliable.I get the invoices paid.
if it works I'll buy it. |
Protools 10 rock solid lol nooooooooooo way! Protools 10 got bugs for days they might not get in the way of your work flow and even if they did you would do what i do on the REN find a work around. Why am i asking you about OS? its simple you and other people on GS talk like rock solid its possible NOT! useable may be and you do not have to be software writer to be real. Avid is going through changes it would not be wise for anyone to write Plugin code for Protools till version 11.
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