I need some solid 808s!!!

[Feinstrom]

Of course MicroTonic is plastic!
The TR-808 is plastic, too!
And the MachineDrum and Battery, too!

We WANT plastic!
Otherwise we'd ask a drummer, wouldn't we?

[panther]

Originally Posted by gb-jazz

honestly I used to have an 808 and I sold it cos i didn't like sequencing with it and it took up to much space. The Machine Drum is much more useful and sounds pretty damn good plus its about 1/3rd the size. I like grand pianos as much as the next guy but I need my living room.

Dood, I def would not recommend sequencing with an 808. Its best used as a sound module.

[jkamata]

Originally Posted by Feinstrom

Of course MicroTonic is plastic!
The TR-808 is plastic, too!
And the MachineDrum and Battery, too!

We WANT plastic!
Otherwise we'd ask a drummer, wouldn't we?

No @?#€"€% way the 808 is plastic...are u INSANE..

The Tr-808 is ANAAAAAAAAALOGstike stike stike stike stike stike stike stike

[Speakeasy]

www.tr-808.com

[Casanova]

Originally Posted by GoJiRa 3000

ok heres a real quick audio example of the mods (sounds are unprocesed! be aware of cracks and over extensive noise when I turn the pots!!)

bass drum tune snap and decay

snare drum tune (sounds NASTY when i turn them)

then decay and white noise volume (goes up to distortion)

clap (it crax like a mfka)

then i tune the cowbell, u cant hear it tho cuz i havnt plugged its output in, but u can hear a slight tuning of the hats..

http://www.listic.dk/p.hilla/808mods.mp3

I like it.

Any chance you could put a demo up of your Jomox in action? Thinking of getting one but never actually heard them, how do you think it compares to the real thing?

[Franco]

I've mixed a few projects for a client of mine from the bay, and they love to sprinkle 808s over practically everything. On a few of the tracks, they had some super looooooong 808s that sounded really good, and after we mastered their project, they sounded really nice and deep. He actually called me up one day to give props because of the response he got from his peoples as to the sounds of the masters, especially the 808s, but I told him that it all started with them using really good samples (assumed a real TR-808 couldn't do such long 808s) and he said "Oh they're not samples, I programmed all of those using the Waldorf Attak". I didn't see this software VST mentioned, but based on what I've heard, you might wanna check for that one.

[Feinstrom]

No @?#€"€% way the 808 is plastic...are u INSANE..

The Tr-808 is ANAAAAAAAAALOG

I know all that, and I LOVE analog beatboxes (I have and use around ten or twelve or so of them - want a list?), and none of them sounds like the next one. I even know of some really crappy-sounding analog beatboxes (or synths!).
I love them BECAUSE they sound artificial (=plastic), as opposed to samples or real drumming.
But they don't sound more ore less artificial than Attack or MicroTonic or Ersdrums or whatever VA drum software you might use. Different, but not better or worse.

BTW, well, yes, of course I'm insane. Aren't we all?

[Tibbon]

Well MY machinedrum UW is made of metal. Nice metal.

[Mackrochips]

Awhile ago I downloaded the TR808 kit from Roger Linn's site for the MPC3000
They sound dope and are my 'go to' 808 sounds

I'd imagine even if you didn't have an MPC you could translate the sounds to WAV and rock on-
Hopefully they're still up there

[jkamata]

Originally Posted by Feinstrom

I know all that, and I LOVE analog beatboxes (I have and use around ten or twelve or so of them - want a list?), and none of them sounds like the next one. I even know of some really crappy-sounding analog beatboxes (or synths!).
I love them BECAUSE they sound artificial (=plastic), as opposed to samples or real drumming.
But they don't sound more ore less artificial than Attack or MicroTonic or Ersdrums or whatever VA drum software you might use. Different, but not better or worse.

BTW, well, yes, of course I'm insane. Aren't we all?

haha we sure as hell are! yeah let me see that list

[jkamata]

Originally Posted by Casanova

I like it.

Any chance you could put a demo up of your Jomox in action? Thinking of getting one but never actually heard them, how do you think it compares to the real thing?

it goes a long way, but its stil not a 909..the airbase can do wicked kickinyoface like sounds, that the 909 cant do..the thing about it tho is its friggin hard to program just the right sounds sometimes..ie parameters behave a little strange and diffrent when turning the knob..(maybe its fixed)..

[panther]

Originally Posted by GoJiRa 3000

it goes a long way, but its stil not a 909..the airbase can do wicked kickinyoface like sounds, that the 909 cant do..the thing about it tho is its friggin hard to program just the right sounds sometimes..ie parameters behave a little strange and diffrent when turning the knob..(maybe its fixed)..

Hey GoJiRa 3000 since you have experience with the 909, would you mind taking some questions. I have an 808 which I can't live without. I recently purhchased a 909 on ebay which had many problems so I returned it to the seller. Some questions:

1. I found it difficult to sequence. It seems to involveing holding down the track erase, shift, intrument select and selecting a track. Did you find it to be a challenge to sequence? Perhaps there was something wrong the one I used.

2. The kick seems to be especially useful but I was not as crazy about all the sound. Do you go to the 909 for all its sounds or only for the kick.

3. Any other thoughts?

[Feinstrom]

Okay, here's the list:

Korg Rhythm 55
Hammond Vari-64
Fricke MFB 501
Korg Minipops (2 different models)
Radel Taalmala (electronic Tabla)
Solton Disco 64
Boss DR-110
Hohner Rhythm 80
CRM Rhythm Boy
CRM Computer Drums
Yamaha MR-10
AK Drummer
Ace-Tone Rhythm Ace (2 different models)
Roland Rhythm 55

And the more modern ones:
Jomox MBase 01
Novation DrumStation (I know it's not analog...)
MAM ADX-1
Nihon-Hammond DPM-48 (samples, but dirty ones!)
Korg MR-16 (too)
Riyaz Master (electronic Tabla, sampled)

I used to have a TR-808, TR-909 and Jomox XBase 09, but sold them.
No regrets.

[allstar]

Originally Posted by gb-jazz

honestly I used to have an 808 and I sold it cos i didn't like sequencing with it and it took up to much space. The Machine Drum is much more useful and sounds pretty damn good plus its about 1/3rd the size. I like grand pianos as much as the next guy but I need my living room.

The 808 is THE easiest drum machine to program.

Select the sound select the step, simplicity it's self.

And I gotta say, if you haven't got room for the 808,

make room,

chuck out your TV or something.

[jkamata]

Originally Posted by Feinstrom

Okay, here's the list:

Korg Rhythm 55
Hammond Vari-64
Fricke MFB 501
Korg Minipops (2 different models)
Radel Taalmala (electronic Tabla)
Solton Disco 64
Boss DR-110
Hohner Rhythm 80
CRM Rhythm Boy
CRM Computer Drums
Yamaha MR-10
AK Drummer
Ace-Tone Rhythm Ace (2 different models)
Roland Rhythm 55

And the more modern ones:
Jomox MBase 01
Novation DrumStation (I know it's not analog...)
MAM ADX-1
Nihon-Hammond DPM-48 (samples, but dirty ones!)
Korg MR-16 (too)
Riyaz Master (electronic Tabla, sampled)

I used to have a TR-808, TR-909 and Jomox XBase 09, but sold them.
No regrets.

holy smokey!..hmm would be nice to see a Dmx and a Drumtrax in there as well

[jkamata]

Originally Posted by panther

Hey GoJiRa 3000 since you have experience with the 909, would you mind taking some questions. I have an 808 which I can't live without. I recently purhchased a 909 on ebay which had many problems so I returned it to the seller. Some questions:

1. I found it difficult to sequence. It seems to involveing holding down the track erase, shift, intrument select and selecting a track. Did you find it to be a challenge to sequence? Perhaps there was something wrong the one I used.

2. The kick seems to be especially useful but I was not as crazy about all the sound. Do you go to the 909 for all its sounds or only for the kick.

3. Any other thoughts?

yo P. dont own a 909, but have sum friends (2) who has had both, and they all say the
same..and using my ears i can tell the diffrence too....

but on the airbase I go for everything..Kix, snare whateva..for me its not that important if it sounds exactly the same as a genuine 909. Even my moded 808
is fck tunable so it will never sound the same either..the important thing for me is the
caracter of the sound..ie analog and dirt..i make electro and ghettohouse so thats the kind of sound i look for..something nasty

if u need something just for kix the new kick drum module from Jomox should be just the thing..What u say Feinstorm..

[Feinstrom]

..hmm would be nice to see a Dmx and a Drumtrax in there as well

I think those lo-fi samples are covered with the DPM-48 and the MR-16.
But in a more non-standard way, which is what I'm after...

Yesterday I saw Matthew Herbert sample the crumpling noise of a tin drink can into a 612 and turn it into a hi-hat. On stage in about ten seconds.
Now that's what I call creative beats-making!
All I ever tried was a kick drum out of Bill Cosby tapping on a microphone. From a CD (don't sue me, Bill, I never used it!). Worked!

...oh, and it's Feinstrom!

[STRATEGY]

Originally Posted by Zacchino

E-Phonic Drumatic

Not quite 808 as far as I know (I personnally wouldn't copy Dre or Lil Jon), still this soft drum synth (vsti) has a great potential

yeah, Lil Jon & Dr. Dre - Originators and/or popularizers of the Roland TR-808..


*snicker*


STRATEGY