so i purchased new studio monitors

[SeriousPancakes]

The krk's give you an exaggerated bass response which means it would not translate well onto other stereos. If you are a mixing engineer, I suggest keeping the HS50's and perhaps getting a sub if needed, as your current monitors have a more honest sound.

[Johntron512]

Originally Posted by illfundz

yamaha hs50m. your s.but im starting to think i should of got the krk 5 rokits because the bass on the krks bang a little harder (pause)..i still have the option to take the yamahas back but i want a solid opinion from someone who knows more...im a hip hop artist..i dont make beats but i mixx my vocals and everything myself..i want the best quality possible and right now im kinda having buyers remorse..is this right? what should i do?

thanks sluts

HS10W is the subwoofer that goes with your setup

[The Aristocrat]

In my opinion the the HS50s have a bit more bass response than the rokits. That being said both are pretty small monitors and I think either way you would end up buying a sub. It is ultimately up to you and since you are probably going to need a sub anyway there wouldn't be much of a trade off going back for them, if you are getting the sub of course.

[Stackx]

Shit! Might as well get the alesis m1active520's. There very very boomy and nice and muddy. Really really bassy. and there only like $100! You can save a ton of money and have that extreme bass you want in a small monitor.

[e-are]

I have the 50's, 80's and the sub. The 50's are great for balancing and picking out harsh frequencies. Very good monitors. Works really well with the sub. I would keepem. Had a pair of rokit 8's and gave them away.

[teknatronik]

I have the 80's with the sub and would never go to a krk in replace of.

[ddash]

I wouldn't go KRK at all.

You definitely should've got the HS80s imo.

[raffael77]

If you don't have alot of money go for the KRK series. I got the KRK 6G2 active speaker.

The reason why i chose KRK is for bass. The yamaha h10 has a good middle and high sound and very clear but no bass at all. The experience i had with this speaker is when i mixed songs i I amplified too much low frequencies. The KRK has more bass so it's more easy to balance the bass overall instead of missing bass.

To me the Dynaudio BM 5A MKII is a better speaker but i was poor in money so this one was the best choice for me.

Tip: Listen to several speakers before you buy. It's you that have to work with those speakers.

[Trell Blaze]

"so i purchased new studio monitors..."

Now go treat your room. Seriously. This is the most important thing you can do. What good are super accurate monitors if you're not hearing them super accurately? Your decisions will be based on what you hear.

I have the HS50's with a KRK Rockit sub. The weak link is the KRK sub but I haven't had the time or the budget to replace it. I've gotten used to it and I'm able to mix with it effectively but it will be the first thing to go...

[raffael77]

Treating your room is important to and i prefer not to use any woofers on nearfield speakers.

[DAH]

Treating room does not change FR response, rather the LF decay time. So the first thing to do is to find the (equilateral-traingle-lying) spots for the speakers and the mixer where LFR in the mix-spot are most linear.

[UpNorthSound]

And the easiest way to find the ETL?

[myflashstore]

Treat your room and buy the sub...if you can afford it - otherwise the KRKs are a good compromise. But as with any monitors you'll have to spend time getting used to them. Listen to commercially released mixes in them and comparing your mixes to those mixes.

[UpNorthSound]

KRKs not so good these days? I used to hear alot of good about them. Why not treat the room if geting KRK's?

[Azamat Bagatov]

yeah...

Why are the Rokit 8's so God awful?

[UpNorthSound]

Originally Posted by raffael77

Treating your room is important to and i prefer not to use any woofers on nearfield speakers.

For what reasons as I'm about to upgrade my monitor setup from some dated RP5's?

What should the next step be for me if the room is treated?

[The Aristocrat]

Originally Posted by UpNorthSound

For what reasons as I'm about to upgrade my monitor setup from some dated RP5's?

What should the next step be for me if the room is treated?

Treating your room is valuable for monitoring purposes and it is VERY important. Everything you do in this realm will be based on how well you hear what exactly is going on in the process, whether it be in the mix, master or during the production process. If your room is not treated you will not be hearing things properly.

Sound localization and depth perception with regards to sound will be dependent on things like phase differences and angles of reflection and a list of other things. If your room is untreated the sound will continue bouncing around for long periods of time, comparatively anyway. If the sound is still bouncing around, you are still hearing it which means that you will be mixing inaccurately. Why inaccurately you ask, because you will be hearing sounds that have long left the source which means that you will be compensating for sounds that you shouldn't be hearing. Everything will be affected from panning to reverb addition. What you are ultimately trying to do, is to remove the room as a factor as much as possible so that you can mix properly. So you won't be over or under emphasizing anything which will ultimately result in a better mix on your system as well as a mix that translates well.


As for what will your next upgrade be? That will depend on what area of your studio is lacking, what aspect of your current setup do you feel is lacking?

[The Aristocrat]

Originally Posted by Azamat Bagatov

yeah...

Why are the Rokit 8's so God awful?

Because they are not flat or transparent really, they are great for listening to music. The problem is that they exaggerate some frequencies and then under represent others. They aren't terrible but there are a lot better out there. At that price range, I'm not entirely sure. Remember though there are other things that very critical in regards to monitoring. First thing is your monitoring environment and the second is knowledge of your monitors which is why it is always advisable to have reference mixes these are just two things that can affect the process, there are others.

As with anything really there are advantages and disadvantages and what is important is that you make sure that you eliminate other variables as much as possible that may affect the quality of the sound you are hearing. Everything from your environment to conversion will play a role in the quality of what you are hearing and it is only after you eliminate those variables or as close to eliminate them as possible that can you truly assess the inadequacies of your monitors. Learn which frequencies they do well at representing and where they fall off, once you know what your monitors are capable of and where they are lacking you can adjust your mix accordingly.

[ddash]

^^^^^

Yup you nailed it.

I hate the KRK RP8's but my favorite monitors were the limited edition Rp6's.

[mir]

+1 to HS50ms - highly underrated monitors, but so far my best investment - been using their big brother HS80ms, Prodipes and Focals, but HS50ms blow them all the way down!

[Tha Govna]

I've the 50's and the sub and also find them really great.

I've had them since April, then picked up the sub in May due to their lack of bass.

I've cut my reference listening down a lot thanks to them!

So, the comment above about them being more honest is right on in my opinion.

I've broadband and traps up, as well as KRK Ergo, in my room.

[nukmusic]

if you're mostly producing HipHop/rap you may do better adding that sub or going with the HS80s. hearing with the lowend is doing is important.