12th September 2012
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#1 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter | Boost Wide, Cut Narrow?
yo, Ive been reading alot of eq threads on the net.
A few of them have said cut narrow and boost wide.
Is this something to take into consideration when eq'ing?
If so, that will mean ill have to use more than 1 narrow cut on each instrument.
is it bad to use alot of cuts?
thanks.
peace.
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12th September 2012
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#2 | | Gear nut
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There are a lot of "rules" out there aren't there? For every "rule" you run into, you'll run into a situation where breaking the "rule" fixes your mix! I'll just say that when you are using eq, be sure to constantly reference what you're doing in the context of the whole mix (don't get "solo-itis"). So, to answer your questions, 1. yes, if it serves the mix 2. no, if it serves the mix. Good luck!
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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Boost narrow at 12k. Then boost wide at 12k.
Cut narrow at 1.2k. Then cut wide at 1.2k.
This is why.
It's a good rule of thumb. It is something you should understand so that you can use eq adeptly. Once you understand the rule: By all means, feel free to break it.
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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You asking this means you have not yet got it with your ears. Just keep justifying for yourself whether this is right.
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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Doesn't even matter if your mixing on cheap headphones. Everything you do is gonna be wrong if your monitoring never translates.
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Generally speaking I am almost always boosting or cutting with wide Qs. The only time I use a narrow Q is when I'm trying to do surgery, for example there happens to be a ringing resonant frequency in a snare drum or something, or when I'm trying to do an effect like a walkie-talkie sound or something. Wider Qs tend to sound more musical than narrow ones so unless you need to perform surgery on something, wider is typically better. That said, you can't go crazy wide or you start affecting frequencies you don't want to affect.
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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don't believe anything anyone says about this shit. it's nonsense. there are no proper rules that you should always follow. EQ your shit in whatever way it takes to achieve the sound you want. all that matters is how it sounds in the end. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bligsbeats yo, Ive been reading alot of eq threads on the net.
A few of them have said cut narrow and boost wide.
Is this something to take into consideration when eq'ing?
If so, that will mean ill have to use more than 1 narrow cut on each instrument.
is it bad to use alot of cuts?
thanks.
peace. | |
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13th September 2012
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#8 | | Gear addict
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Everybody is right but just remember that higher frequencies are perceived louder than lower ones.
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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Boost narrow to find the annoying frequencies to cut and cut them narrow ever sounds best in the context of the mix. I usually cut and boost pretty wide. Like Chris said, its usually more musical.
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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There are no rules. You do what ever is needed. If a wide cut is needed to make the song or instrument track sound better, then that is what you do.
There are no rules for Q settings and effect settings as each situation is different
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by CJ Mastering There are no rules. You do what ever is needed. If a wide cut is needed to make the song or instrument track sound better, then that is what you do.
There are no rules for Q settings and effect settings as each situation is different | Absolutely! But boosting quite narrow usually leads to more artifacts or resonance. At least when it's a decent amount of boost.. No?
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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I never realised, but now that you've mentioned it, it's how I EQ most of the times. However, I do boost narrow (mostly on kick) and cut wide (mostly on busses, but not really a rule of thumb).
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14th September 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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There are certainly cases where narrow boosts and wide cuts are applicable.
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14th September 2012
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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Is this a rule? or a common occurrence? Seems like the later .... by how many db? and where? what Q settings? It seems like the answer is that it is all circumstantial ....
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Absolutely! But boosting quite narrow usually leads to more artifacts or resonance. At least when it's a decent amount of boost.. No?
| It depends. Maybe that frequncy is so low in that narrow range that a narroow boost is needed and maybe that is the sound that the song needs or that track needs. Every situation is different. You just do what ever is needed for that track
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14th September 2012
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#16 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2010 Location: San Antonio
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If one Learns how to use the tools, one will Know how wide of a Q to use and when.
Peace.
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