14th September 2012
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#121 | | www.KevWestBeats.com
Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle
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Originally Posted by cricketz Laughing at all those who bought the Ren (aka paying beta testers) finding a growing list of bugs and promised features that were never finished at launch. Not that I expected otherwise from Akai.  | Is it that bad? I have not seen any reviews for the Ren yet. That is too bad I almost considered getting one.
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18th September 2012
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#122 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2012 Location: Jamaica
Posts: 623
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Originally Posted by cricketz Yeah, it's crazy. Even the simplest of tasks like copying sequences or clearing/duplicating programs is known to cause a crash and all sort of other bugs like notes getting stuck and the screen getting glitchy...etc. | That is not very good considering the amount of time that Akai seemed to have had to beta test it.
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18th September 2012
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#123 | | Gear interested
Joined: Sep 2012 Location: Ohio
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All u guys are silly as f*ck. But I can understand where ya coming from if u bought a piece of equipment & it doesn't work out for ya like u thought it would. Guess I"d b pissed too.
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18th September 2012
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#124 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Seoul, Korea
Posts: 161
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Originally Posted by scottdavidson yeah, i totally agree bro!!!...i mean its not like anyone's ever managed to make any records with that peice of junk.
While we're at it , i'll tell you what else is rubbish...mixing desks...and speakers..oh and microphones suck too....and shoes. | Yeah man. That's why I don't use Maschine, MPC Ren., TR-808 or TR-909. I just use drum sticks and some plastic buckets. They costed me less than $50, saved a lot of money compared to $600 for Maschine and $1200 for Mpc Ren. And I don't need to wear my shoes while I play them, unlike the Maschine & MPC Ren. which requires shirt and shoes for service. |
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18th September 2012
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#125 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2012 Location: Jamaica
Posts: 623
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Originally Posted by djloekee27 Yeah man. That's why I don't use Maschine, MPC Ren., TR-808 or TR-909. I just use drum sticks and some plastic buckets. They costed me less than $50, saved a lot of money compared to $600 for Maschine and $1200 for Mpc Ren. And I don't need to wear my shoes while I play them, unlike the Maschine & MPC Ren. which requires shirt and shoes for service.  | Ahem, On a serious note....what brand were the buckets.... |
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18th September 2012
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#126 | | Geariophile
Joined: Oct 2006 Location: london
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19th September 2012
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#127 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Seoul, Korea
Posts: 161
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19th September 2012
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#128 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2009
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I'm rocking MPD + Reason since version 3 and its been a great transition from my MPC days.
I will say that learning and perfecting beatmaking on the MPC or any older/limited drum machine can really enhance your creativity. That being said, tracking did suck balls and I love working inside the box.
Got an SP-1200 when I need to dirty up my drums.
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19th September 2012
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#129 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2012 Location: Jamaica
Posts: 623
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Originally Posted by djloekee27 Acme  | good ole acme.
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20th September 2012
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#130 | | www.KevWestBeats.com
Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle
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Originally Posted by alkota I'm rocking MPD + Reason since version 3 and its been a great transition from my MPC days.
I will say that learning and perfecting beatmaking on the MPC or any older/limited drum machine can really enhance your creativity. That being said, tracking did suck balls and I love working inside the box.
Got an SP-1200 when I need to dirty up my drums. | so true. I had a MPD 16 and Reason version 2 and later went hardware. I loved the sound and the change of pace for a while then I started missing the things that made software easy. Imo if u really want that mpc feel this is a great option though I have left Kong alone for Drum Racks for samples.
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20th September 2012
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#131 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan by way of Pittsburgh, PA
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Originally Posted by cricketz Yup. I guess the beta testers were too busy being salesmen hyping it up and not enough real world testing. | I guess you are pissed off Akai didn't value your expertise to have you consult on and test the Ren.
Shame on you for continually dissing Gear Slutz Forum member(s) that use their free time for the advancement of the Akai MPC line. An actual Akai MPC user could never be mad at that.
Fall back....
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20th September 2012
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#132 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,427
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Originally Posted by Jahrome I guess you are pissed off Akai didn't value your expertise to have you consult on and test the Ren.
Shame on you for continually dissing Gear Slutz Forum member(s) that use their free time for the advancement of the Akai MPC line. An actual Akai MPC user could never be mad at that.
Fall back.... | To be fair Jahrome if there is ever an mpc argument on GS you seem to be involved.... Could be wrong but feels that way |
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20th September 2012
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#133 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2012 Location: Jamaica
Posts: 623
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Originally Posted by dubmunkey To be fair Jahrome if there is ever an mpc argument on GS you seem to be involved.... Could be wrong but feels that way  | guess he just highly appreciates the product line, whenever a suitable thread comes up there is usually a heated debate with Jahrome for and cricketz against Akai, or vice versa when it comes to Maschine. Didn't realize people felt so strongly about it though, I'm a little taken aback as to the amount of attention this thread has gotten but as I said before lol, I didn't realize people felt so strongly about it.
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20th September 2012
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#134 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2004 Location: California
Posts: 947
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Originally Posted by The Aristocrat guess he just highly appreciates the product line, whenever a suitable thread comes up there is usually a heated debate with Jahrome for and cricketz against Akai, or vice versa when it comes to Maschine. Didn't realize people felt so strongly about it though, I'm a little taken aback as to the amount of attention this thread has gotten but as I said before lol, I didn't realize people felt so strongly about it. | Some folks are getting paid for it.
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20th September 2012
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#135 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2012 Location: Jamaica
Posts: 623
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Originally Posted by Charlie-O Some folks are getting paid for it. | True.
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20th September 2012
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#136 | | Gear addict
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 322
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Originally Posted by cricketz Yeah, it's crazy. Even the simplest of tasks like copying sequences or clearing/duplicating programs is known to cause a crash and all sort of other bugs like notes getting stuck and the screen getting glitchy...etc. | wow...I too haven't read any formal reviews or used a Ren but damn....this is not cool by any means. I know companies release products just to get them on the market and deal with the 'bugs' as the arise, but you really think, if the above is the case, then it would've been investigated further before being put out for public consumption.
I stand by my opinion that anything released post 2000xl I would not buy.
Camn we get any further confirmations of the above glitches ?
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20th September 2012
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#137 | | Gear addict
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 322
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Originally Posted by The Aristocrat guess he just highly appreciates the product line, whenever a suitable thread comes up there is usually a heated debate with Jahrome for and cricketz against Akai, or vice versa when it comes to Maschine. Didn't realize people felt so strongly about it though, I'm a little taken aback as to the amount of attention this thread has gotten but as I said before lol, I didn't realize people felt so strongly about it. | haha yeah it has made me laugh on several occasions....this and the other thread where everyone was going hard on some Maschine vs Ren type s@%*.
What I don't get is if people don't like a product , then sweet, done deal, don't buy it , don't use it. How is that difficult ?
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20th September 2012
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#138 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2012 Location: Jamaica
Posts: 623
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Originally Posted by AKA-I-Addict haha yeah it has made me laugh on several occasions....this and the other thread where everyone was going hard on some Maschine vs Ren type s@%*. What I don't get is if people don't like a product , then sweet, done deal, don't buy it , don't use it. How is that difficult ? | Ahh it isn't but that would take away the opportunities of the self conscious and insecure to justify their own purchases and or inadequacies by putting down others.
People would rather jump on a forum and have an argument with someone they never met about someone else's purchase that will probably never have even the slightest effect on them or their music, people would be surprised how much free time they would have to actually work on music had they not been arguing.
But pff that would be far too easy lol.
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20th September 2012
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#139 | | Gear Head
Joined: Dec 2007
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^^^ amen!
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20th September 2012
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#140 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan by way of Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 862
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Originally Posted by The Aristocrat guess he just highly appreciates the product line, whenever a suitable thread comes up there is usually a heated debate with Jahrome for and cricketz against Akai, or vice versa when it comes to Maschine. Didn't realize people felt so strongly about it though, I'm a little taken aback as to the amount of attention this thread has gotten but as I said before lol, I didn't realize people felt so strongly about it. | Quote: "We are developing a new MPC...and would like your feedback. Want to help with development?"
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I have no idea or even care how much NI is paying crickets...but the forum members that were selected to test and demo the Ren are not paid Akai employees. You won't see me in an Akai video like F Major in his NI videos. (Curious to know if he has tried out the Ren yet).
While I am no Maschine expert, I do own the product and compare/contrast the two every day. Everything I learn about Maschine, I report to make the Ren a better product for those that use these types of products. That is a major reason why you see me in so many discussions about drum machines. 98% of all my posts in this forum is related to these topics.
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21st September 2012
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#141 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2012
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Originally Posted by Jahrome Hell to the yes!
Everything I learn about Maschine, I report to make the Ren a better product for those that use these types of products. That is a major reason why you see me in so many discussions about drum machines. 98% of all my posts in this forum is related to these topics. | Lol clearly ni is wining then if you gotta beg akai to add maschines features to the rennisance
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21st September 2012
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#142 | | I EAT VINYL FOR DINNER
Joined: Dec 2011
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Originally Posted by Brb Lol clearly ni is wining then if you gotta beg akai to add maschines features to the rennisance | you read my mind
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21st September 2012
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#143 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan by way of Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 862
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Originally Posted by MONSTA_ONE you read my mind | You mean like how NI after 3 years are adding features standard on MPCs for over a decade? Time stretching, pitch shifting, note length adjustment, saving samples with their programs?  Not too mention all the features that shipped with Maschine that MPCs already have. |
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21st September 2012
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#144 | | I EAT VINYL FOR DINNER
Joined: Dec 2011
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Originally Posted by Jahrome You mean like how NI after 3 years are adding features standard on MPCs for over a decade? Time stretching, pitch shifting, note length adjustment, saving samples with their programs?  Not too mention all the features that shipped with Maschine that MPCs already have.  |
ni brought akai back to life .. simple as that . now they both trade ideas . |
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21st September 2012
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#145 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,427
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Originally Posted by the aristocrat ahh it isn't but that would take away the opportunities of the self conscious and insecure to justify their own purchases and or inadequacies by putting down others.
People would rather jump on a forum and have an argument with someone they never met about someone else's purchase that will probably never have even the slightest effect on them or their music, people would be surprised how much free time they would have to actually work on music had they not been arguing.
But pff that would be far too easy lol. | +1000000^10
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