Originally Posted by kefka
Production royalties would be 3-5% (standard) - Kefka
for actual production yes - but not production in a "beatmaking" capacity. Beatmaker = co-writer = 50% of publishing (assuming one person wrote the backing track, the other did the topline). This IS standard.
If someone is taking an already-written song, and arranging it/producing the recording (ie a traditional producer), then 3-5% of the MECHANICALS is usual. It's not usual for the producer to get a cut of the publishing UNLESS they contributed a big part of the hook. After all, if you're producing a cover version, you're not going to get 3-5% of the publishing from the original writer.
Originally Posted by osomusicent
A buddy of mine got some beats from a big name producer and they signed a contract that split all publishing 50-50 but gave the producer no points since he paid for the beats straight up. I figured this deal was the regular split for an unknown rapper and a producer who has several hits on the radio and such. I'd be interested in knowing more on the subject.
Again - doesn't matter if it's names, big names, small names, whatever. If you write the backing track, it's 50% of the song's publishing.
Now in the above case, your friend IN ADDITION to this paid the producer as a "work for hire", and this being a buyout there wasn't any points on the mechanicals (ie each copy sold). This is no different to writing a song on your own, and giving it to someone else to "produce". Whilst many traditional producers DO get points on a record (and even some mixers do), it's equally common for a production fee to be a buyout.