Need new sounds to try something new.

[Bender412]

Originally Posted by TheArk

...I need VSTs that can start doing these productions...

Umm, not trying to insult you but it's not the VSTs doing the production...

[TheArk]

Originally Posted by Bender412

Umm, not trying to insult you but it's not the VSTs doing the production...

Sorry for my wording but you know what I meant.

[Bender412]

Originally Posted by TheArk

...My frustration is that with these vsts I CONSTANTLY find myself making the same 808/trap/dirty south shit. I mean I love it and it is easy/fun to make, but I need a musical change. I want to do arrangements like J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League does. Very moving, classy, and 'elite' beats. Plus these compositions are much more musically complex. I need VSTs that can start doing these productions. Does anyone know what type of stuff they use? I am thinking of buying EZ Drummer since that is there drums, and maybe Miroslav Philharmonik. I am open to any other suggestions.

The answer is in your question ... the things in bold ^^^. And what I mean is that new VSTs won't give you the change you're looking for. Yes, it's nice to add some fresh sounds to your library, but they WON'T make you make better music, without the THINGS IN BOLD ^^^

[KevWest]

Get Kontakt buy libraries everyone pretty much makes sounds for Kontakt or if u don't want to spend much Sample Moog is $30 for the next few days

[03.31.83]

TheArk, listen to the robot!

Bender, good posts! You said pretty much everything that needs to be said in response to the op!

Instead of starting to throw around vst recommendations, you went straight to the heart and tackle the the "real problem" which has very little to do with any new vst instruments!

Good to see a few people with some sense here!

[MitchGeist]

The guy above is obnoxious, sorry man but your always been condescending in one way or another.

But yeah man Omni is really a great VST. It is all in how good of a producer you are, trust me. Keep studying and keep Omnisphere.

[Thunderdan]

Those super classy justice league tracks are jacked loops, puff daddy style...If thats the vibe you're trying to get on you gotta start with "elite" "classy" samples.

[E.rOk.stA]

Originally Posted by Thunderdan

Those super classy justice league tracks are jacked loops, puff daddy style...If thats the vibe you're trying to get on you gotta start with "elite" "classy" samples.

You couldn't be more wrong. They compose all that stuff and have musicians come and lay it down live.

[Tnevz]

I dunno man, but I think kontakt is a good call really. That and massive maybe.
Omnisphere may have a lot of real full sound stuff but it doesn't have to be like that, you can adjust all kinds of parameters in the synth it's self and eq it so it's not so full sounding.

If you want to do something besides trap listen to anything but trap and force yourself to do that kind of stuff when you sit down at your daw.
learn how to make some oldschool 90's sh!t is what I would say. That boom bap that really has groove.

Justice league stuff, the good stuff, is pretty orchestrated so some good strings and brass would be a good start IMO. Maybe the eastwest stuff but look around at all your options and see if there's some lesser known ,but just as good if not better, sample libraries that can help you. The disadvantage with a lot of these sample libraries is that most are VERY CPU and ram intensive.

I would say first and foremost, find YOUR sound.
It may come by way of a plugin or two but in all likelyhood it will be how you manipulate it and use it. And for that you'll want to learn the vst in and out, all it's quirks and advantages disadvantages.

[Tnevz]

Originally Posted by E.rOk.stA

You couldn't be more wrong. They compose all that stuff and have musicians come and lay it down live.

Exactly. And everybody should know this by now.

[aproblem]

dude you have omnisphere which is an extremely powerful synth and very flexible as well. It has some great sampled waveforms in there too. learn some synthesis. design your own sounds. You can adjust the presets in their too. It can be used for hip-hop, I know a lot of people who use it. I use it too.

[Thunderdan]

Originally Posted by E.rOk.stA

You couldn't be more wrong. They compose all that stuff and have musicians come and lay it down live.

So maybach music one and three weren't samples? You're super sure on that one?

[Zachariah]

Originally Posted by Thunderdan

So maybach music one and three weren't samples? You're super sure on that one?

I cosign. They are replayed. Everything was re-composed on all Maybach Music

[E.rOk.stA]

Originally Posted by Thunderdan

So maybach music one and three weren't samples? You're super sure on that one?

Justice League string sound

[Thunderdan]

still gotta have great samples to re-compose guys... They pick some good source stuff, thats what makes a difference.

[Zachariah]

Originally Posted by Thunderdan

still gotta have great samples to re-compose guys... They pick some good source stuff, thats what makes a difference.

that's true...

if you want to sample.

[Nea]

Hey Ark Try Alchemy.. I Have it... I Make mostly atmosphere muzik.. but hip hop/r&b mix... Try them.. camelaudio my friend... you can even hear the sounds before you buy

[d1rdyd]

It's not what you do its how you do it. This is true in every situation in life.

[muzika]

get a sampler (hardware or vst), find samples (via vinyl or internets), chop, mangle, incorporate other tools , and create/record.

think outside the box. (not in hardware/software sense)
stop relying on commercial products to dictate what you make and how you make it.