And then this happened and 1 hr later I took the CD off repeat and realized I had been freestyling for an hour. As if I was in a trance. All Premier tracks are not equal. Been like that from the gate.
One thing bout a premo beat is that it leaves room for the emcee to showcase his rhymes, voice, and flow. Most hip-hop beats now a days are so over produced that all an artist can do is ablib and sing his rhymes, cause there is too much shit going on in the track. A basic beat is whats necessary for a rapper to really shine on a track lyrically. Not that anyone cares though.
Sorry to say it but Primo needs to change his formula IMO. The same ol Boom bap for the last 10 years. I want to see him be innovative again that's all. I just listen to a new song he did and it actually pained my ears to listen to it! I grew up on Gangstarr so I'd always give Primo a chance but I'm at the end of my rope.
Seems like you just forgot what raw hip-hop sounds like!!
Still to this day am not hearing much else that inspires me like preem. Every time I say to my self "well I guess the heart of hip hop has stopped beating" premo gets it jumping again.
Has anyone noticed how feel and groove in the rhythm section is almost none existent in music these days, not just hip hop, only really the veterans who seem to be able to nail it anymore. This is a big reason premo is still loved and still consistent.
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Sorry to say it but Primo needs to change his formula IMO. The same ol Boom bap for the last 10 years. I want to see him be innovative again that's all. I just listen to a new song he did and it actually pained my ears to listen to it! I grew up on Gangstarr so I'd always give Primo a chance but I'm at the end of my rope.
I'm digging that joint. Track is cool but the song is dope. Track sounds better to me when the verse starts simply cause the vocals sound like one with the track. Premo did a good job. Does it sound like his other stuff? Sure, but that's why people go to him. They want HIS sound. That's what he gave them. There are so many southern songs with the EXACT same beat. Same hook even but with different words . I appreciate strong solid lyrics and a track that allows the rapper to go in yet support him and will keep your head moving. IMO, + 1000 for Premo!!
I never was a fan of every single track a emcee chose from Premier. Not by a longshot. When an artist chose the right track though... it just didn't make sense how crazy the combo would end up.
Like the beats that collected dust.. these tracks sound like the ones on that project. I didnt cut for much or maybe anything on that project. However, I have plenty of content from him that I love, so I have never dwelled on the ones I didnt cut for. I think some people assume you have to love with a passion every single track a producer makes, to be down with them. There are a number of Dilla tracks I dont cut for. I cant really quantify how many, because I just focus on the ones I do like, and dwell on the other ones.
I like the tracks form Preem that are similar to the Ed O.G. joint, I posted above. They immediately do something to my neck and head. I am not by far a hugue Premier fan like some guys. I really enjoy his work though. When he has the right formula, it doesnt seem to get old for me.
I feel a tad the same about any work I have heard from the Neptunes of late.
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It's old news but, NY ain't been the same since Snoop crushed the buildings. I'd rather listen to the first Snoop Album over anything Premo ever touched. Hell I'd rather listen to the Bomb Squad more or Organized Noize over him too.
Boom Bap only makes me want to listen if KRS is rapping. It's not the person on the beat. It's the entire production. KRS would make you listen to Premo. Most other cats don't.
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It's old news but, NY ain't been the same since Snoop crushed the buildings. I'd rather listen to the first Snoop Album over anything Premo ever touched. Hell I'd rather listen to the Bomb Squad more or Organized Noize over him too.
Boom Bap only makes me want to listen if KRS is rapping. It's not the person on the beat. It's the entire production. KRS would make you listen to Premo. Most other cats don't.
See now you are taking it too far and you are speaking blasphemy! Thou shalt not speak against anything Premo has done prior to 2000!
It's old news but, NY ain't been the same since Snoop crushed the buildings. I'd rather listen to the first Snoop Album over anything Premo ever touched. Hell I'd rather listen to the Bomb Squad more or Organized Noize over him too.
Boom Bap only makes me want to listen if KRS is rapping. It's not the person on the beat. It's the entire production. KRS would make you listen to Premo. Most other cats don't.
That straight blasphemy. Just to get a rep is top five.
It's old news but, NY ain't been the same since Snoop crushed the buildings. I'd rather listen to the first Snoop Album over anything Premo ever touched. Hell I'd rather listen to the Bomb Squad more or Organized Noize over him too.
Boom Bap only makes me want to listen if KRS is rapping. It's not the person on the beat. It's the entire production. KRS would make you listen to Premo. Most other cats don't.
LMHO, man I know your telling the truth based on your opinion but shit that quote makes you sound like your trolling hard. Lol
Just for the added extra point I don't think your trolling for second. Which is fair enough.
the la costra nostra track was tuff, but agree alot of premos shit is repetitive but dude is an originator and he mastered the the style and shit is better then lotta these new wanna be down cats doing rap now, still.
I'll just say that I agree to a point....I love Primo and I love what he does so I appreciate the Mc Donalds analogy. I can't listen to him all day but when I feel like some old school boom bap thats what I want to hear. Kind of like when I want to hear some Coltrane or some Sam Cook or Cameo, it's all about the mood at the time.
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rapping about rapping lol.
I get tired of that ish too. Somebody tell undergoundg cats that is getting extra boring.
It's been extra boring for several years now. I think a lot of cats nowadays just want to get a premo beat cuz it's a premo beat, good or just so so. I just heard Evidence on a Premo beat for a song from 2010 or 2011, it was the same formula as in scratched hook with minimal elements to the beat. I actually enjoyed it cuz I've never heard Ev on a Premo track, am I rushing to iTunes to cop it? Meh..... Pete Rock even updated his sound to an extent.
LMHO, man I know your telling the truth based on your opinion but shit that quote makes you sound like your trolling hard. Lol
Just for the added extra point I don't think your trolling for second. Which is fair enough.
Btw What did you make of the krs and show biz lp?
Wasnt the same as classic KRS, but I thought it was cool. I'm not dissing primo. The problem with his production being repetitive is that there are no real rappers that you really want to hear. KRS made you listen to him. He fits well with Premiere.
Still I think Dre, Organized and the Bomb Squad took hip hop the farthest (along with EazyMO B)
the la costra nostra track was tuff, but agree alot of premos shit is repetitive but dude is an originator and he mastered the the style and shit is better then lotta these new wanna be down cats doing rap now, still.
This is Premo I am talking about so with the utmost respect I say this, why limit yourself to 9 sec of sample time if you don't have to? He's keeping it too real!
To me Premo was at his best with Gangstarr period. Next would be with Nas on his first 2 albums. Then Biggie and Jay. Songs with them didn't just have that scratch hook. They made Premo come with his best and they had other hooks mixed in with the scratching. Other cats getting beats from him seem to either get lazy on the hook or trust him too much and it comes out boring. Nas, Jay, and Biggie Premo joints were NEVER boring. And at one time it was a given on Preemo doing at least one joint on your album for it to knock...the good old days smh
This is Premo I am talking about so with the utmost respect I say this, why limit yourself to 9 sec of sample time if you don't have to? He's keeping it too real!
Why not? Its free. You sounding wack now cheif. I'm saying..... why the f$ck do you even question how the next man makes music? What is the point? Preem don't need you as a fan lol. Let him do his thing. If you don't like it, it wasn't meant for you perhaps.
Why not? Its free. You sounding wack now cheif. I'm saying..... why the f$ck do you even question how the next man makes music? What is the point? Preem don't need you as a fan lol. Let him do his thing. If you don't like it, it wasn't meant for you perhaps.
Well for one if none of us questioned how another man makes music there would be no gearslutz, I thought this was a forum? Two, you've chimed in several times yourself. Three, I want to like premo beats again because I like to see progression from a producer like him who has been doing it on a high level for so long. Four, I'm a fan. Five, this is gearslutz.
Well for one if none of us questioned how another man makes music there would be no gearslutz, I thought this was a forum? Two, you've chimed in several times yourself. Three, I want to like premo beats again because I like to see progression from a producer like him who has been doing it on a high level for so long. Four, I'm a fan. Five, this is gearslutz.
Gearslutz not 'why for Preem gotta do it this way" slutz
I never questioned why Preem does things his way. If I don't like something of his I just flip to something I do like. not complain about it.
Why not just take it to the next level yourself?
I choose to travel that road instead of worrying about what the next man is is producing from his sampler.
Gearslutz not 'why for Preem gotta do it this way" slutz
I never questioned why Preem does things his way. If I don't like something of his I just flip to something I do like. not complain about it.
Why not just take it to the next level yourself?
I choose to travel that road instead of worrying about what the next man is is producing from his sampler.
I do take it to the next level but I am also a fan. Thats cool that you flip to something else that you like, I'm sure there is a thread for people who do that also.
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. I appreciate strong solid lyrics and a track that allows the rapper to go in yet support him and will keep your head moving. IMO, + 1000 for Premo!!
The only emcee i want to here rapping about rap is rakim.
