The worst vocal sound of the year goes to.......

[illynoise]

Farnsworth Bentley, "Laid Back". Sounds like it was recorded in my closet. No joke.

Produced by none other than Kanye West, from what I hear.

BaseJase
Illynoise

[filterayok]

thats his performance though, i dont think its the "sound"----its a shame cause that dude is actually pretty cool, i heard some other stuff that wasnt that bad

[coolout]

come on...it sounds a lot better than most of the indie down south sh*t.

a lot of that stuff sounds like a bad recording done with a '57.

To the average dumb fan it makes no difference...they just want that laffy taffy with their white tee or whatever.

[djui5]

Originally Posted by illynoise

Farnsworth Bentley, "Laid Back". Sounds like it was recorded in my closet. No joke.

When did this fokker start doing music? First he's puffy's umbrella bitch, then he was managing some group, and now he's a performer? WTF?



Speaking of bad vocal tracks, what's with Shakiras track feat Wyclef? Her vocals don't sit in the mix in any way shape or form, and sound dull and muffled compared to everything else. Plus they're way too loud....ahhhh

[HeatWAVS]

Originally Posted by djui5

When did this fokker start doing music? First he's puffy's umbrella bitch, then he was managing some group, and now he's a performer? WTF?



Speaking of bad vocal tracks, what's with Shakiras track feat Wyclef? Her vocals don't sit in the mix in any way shape or form, and sound dull and muffled compared to everything else. Plus they're way too loud....ahhhh

agrees... but did you know that song just became the highest spun radio single in history... I guess the hips really don't lie... lol

[djui5]

Originally Posted by HeatWAVS

agrees... but did you know that song just became the highest spun radio single in history... I guess the hips really don't lie... lol

Wouldn't shock me, Shakir and Wyclef...Wyclef along brings a lot of weight to a track. He didn't buy that McClaren F1 sittin on the couch

[Dor]

Originally Posted by djui5

Wouldn't shock me, Shakir and Wyclef...Wyclef along brings a lot of weight to a track. He didn't buy that McClaren F1 sittin on the couch

Nope, he bought it off of Lauren's talent hahaha.

[djui5]

Originally Posted by Dor

Nope, he bought it off of Lauren's talent hahaha.

haha! That's "below the belt"

[I <3 The Beatle]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=76845034

I had no choice but to look this up. Granted that this is off of Myspace, but you can tell this sounds like complete sh**.

At times it seems like he's trying to rap like Kanye too.....that sing songey kind of flow. Sick beat though..no surprise there.

[illynoise]

Originally Posted by I <3 The Beatle

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endID=76845034

I had no choice but to look this up. Granted that this is off of Myspace, but you can tell this sounds like complete sh**.

At times it seems like he's trying to rap like Kanye too.....that sing songey kind of flow. Sick beat though..no surprise there.

They are playing it on the Radio out here a lot, goes to show you that quality doesn't matter in the Ipod age.

The other song on the myspace page is on Da Bands album I'm told, so that's a different album I guess.

BaseJase
Illynoise

[soundofmind]

Lets get to the mixing.

[Rush909]

Originally Posted by djui5

Speaking of bad vocal tracks, what's with Shakiras track feat Wyclef? Her vocals don't sit in the mix in any way shape or form, and sound dull and muffled compared to everything else. Plus they're way too loud....ahhhh

I notice that as well... actually if you hear alot of Shakira's tracks her vocals are always mixed "out of the track" and are always super-duper loud... I think cause she sings in such a low regisgter you have to crank her up or she won't compete with the music... I personally LOVE that effect... it's really different and works for her... won't work on just anyone...

r.

[djui5]

Eric mixed one of her records and I thought it sounded amazing. He got the vocal to stick out but it still sounded like part of the mix. This is very hard to do.
But on that song with Wyclef she sounds disconnected from the mix entirely, like someone pushed it too far. Who mixed that song? Does anyone know?

Sorry to "distract" the thread.

[soundofmind]

anyone else listen to the Unpredictable song by Jamie Foxx...more specifically the remix with Ludacris?

wtf is up with luda's vocals? they sound like complete trash on that song, like he rapped through a megaphone into the mic.


and from what i heard thats a jimmy douglass mix...

i guess these old guys ARE getting lazy

[storm]

The song was mixed in NYC by Serge Tsai I think he is Wyclef's guy.

Who knows maybe he was just looking at her hips... :-)

[beat you down]

Originally Posted by illynoise

Farnsworth Bentley, "Laid Back". Sounds like it was recorded in my closet. No joke.

Produced by none other than Kanye West, from what I hear.

BaseJase
Illynoise

aaargh... drop that mic... pleeeeease!

[stereobot]

Originally Posted by djui5

Speaking of bad vocal tracks, what's with Shakiras track feat Wyclef? Her vocals don't sit in the mix in any way shape or form, and sound dull and muffled compared to everything else. Plus they're way too loud....ahhhh

Speaking of Wyclef and bad vocal tracks - I think the guy is tone deaf. Take away the Auto Tune and you are left with a dying goat. anyone ever hear him live? I saw some show and his performance was a joke. I think the guy sucks all around -singing and songwriting, everything.

dfegad Wyclef.

..flame this post, see what I care...

[soundeq]

You guys forget lots of times as a mixer, our clients ask us to do things that we may not "like" but it is ultimatly their song... I know that Shakira REALLLYY needs her voice to sit WAY out in front of the track... and she will have you recall the mix "vocal up please", and recall it again "up some more", and recall once more "just a bit more" until she has it where she likes it...
Add the artist, producer, A&R, label prez, and you have lots of people sticking their "finger" in the mix, often times to the mixers disaproval. I don't care if your a Wallace or lord alge, clearmountin, or Staub... Artists have MUCH bigger ego's than any mixer ever will. And will ask for everything and anything.

I'll fight for a few things that I think are important, I'll say "your paying me too much for my opinion to mix it your way". Ultimatly at the end of the day, if they insist, I'll either say, I'm not mixing this song anymore (if it really fu*&#$s it up) or I'll do it their way. But I'll inform them I think it's a mistake, and they, again, are paying me too much to mix it "their way".

Little things like "I need the hi-hat up .5 db or shit, i usually dont care about, it really isn't gonna make the song differernt, and do what I call "need to put my finger in the mix BS" no problem... fine, you think the mix will be soooooo much better with that syth line or string pad up .25db I'll do it no prob.

I can't comment on the mix of Laid back, or the tracking, perhaps your hearing some crappy mp3 or somthing... I do like fonzworth, I think he'll be real popular with the 18-30 Female crowd, i have seen it in person. While his music isn't exactly my cup of tea, I think he could do well.

[rickrock305]

Originally Posted by soundeq

I don't care if your a Wallace or lord alge, clearmountin, or Staub... Artists have MUCH bigger ego's than any mixer ever will. And will ask for everything and anything.

if your a wallace or a lord alge, you just tell them to piss off

[jikky]

Originally Posted by coolout

come on...it sounds a lot better than most of the indie down south sh*t.

a lot of that stuff sounds like a bad recording done with a '57.

To the average dumb fan it makes no difference...they just want that laffy taffy with their white tee or whatever.

dfegad Coolout

You're a joke ass hater. Don't hate cause the south doing thangs. And yea a lot of indie south sounds just like it's supposed to. Mixtapeish. The real CDs get mixed and mastered if they have a budget. U did say indie like a dude in a bedroom, closet, living room, his potna crib, that old garage, beat up house transformed studio. We gettin bucks down here and u seem all upset about it. And why u callin fans dumb. Wtf are u in music for. Let ppl do what they do. Oh and I guess u rockin suites and shit. If u don't like the style move away. If u still hearing it u ain't moved far enuf. Or turn off the radio. Or make something so spectacular that the whole game shifts to ur style. If not STFU. Hating on tha south. U don't know about this.

[JDN]

Originally Posted by rickrock305

if your a wallace or a lord alge, you just tell them to piss off

wow...are you really that naive. Even the best mixers have to cater to the A&R, producers, and artists wishes....that's just the way it works...It's even worse for mastering engineers who always get the "make the song louder" speach.

[ONE LUV]

Originally Posted by Dor

Nope, he bought it off of Lauren's talent hahaha.

haha yeah, nice one!!!

[s.d.finley]

Originally Posted by jikkyboy11

dfegad Coolout

You're a joke ass hater. Don't hate cause the south doing thangs. And yea a lot of indie south sounds just like it's supposed to. Mixtapeish. The real CDs get mixed and mastered if they have a budget. U did say indie like a dude in a bedroom, closet, living room, his potna crib, that old garage, beat up house transformed studio. We gettin bucks down here and u seem all upset about it. And why u callin fans dumb. Wtf are u in music for. Let ppl do what they do. Oh and I guess u rockin suites and shit. If u don't like the style move away. If u still hearing it u ain't moved far enuf. Or turn off the radio. Or make something so spectacular that the whole game shifts to ur style. If not STFU. Hating on tha south. U don't know about this.

H-Town in da Hizz-ous!!!

[Stitch333]

Originally Posted by soundeq

I'll fight for a few things that I think are important, I'll say "your paying me too much for my opinion to mix it your way". Ultimatly at the end of the day, if they insist, I'll either say, I'm not mixing this song anymore (if it really fu*&#$s it up) or I'll do it their way. But I'll inform them I think it's a mistake, and they, again, are paying me too much to mix it "their way".

Little things like "I need the hi-hat up .5 db or shit, i usually dont care about, it really isn't gonna make the song differernt, and do what I call "need to put my finger in the mix BS" no problem... fine, you think the mix will be soooooo much better with that syth line or string pad up .25db I'll do it no prob.

All very true.
Fun thing to do is when they ask for that snare to be .5db louder, wait 20 mins and send them the same mix. 9 times out of 10 they'll say, 'thats much better' ....
Its ********...

[mikeeusa]

Originally Posted by I <3 The Beatle

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I had no choice but to look this up. Granted that this is off of Myspace, but you can tell this sounds like complete sh**.

At times it seems like he's trying to rap like Kanye too.....that sing songey kind of flow. Sick beat though..no surprise there.

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^^^^^
WHAT THE FREAKING HELL? DOG.

[DaKid]

Originally Posted by jikkyboy11

dfegad Coolout

You're a joke ass hater. Don't hate cause the south doing thangs. And yea a lot of indie south sounds just like it's supposed to. Mixtapeish. The real CDs get mixed and mastered if they have a budget. U did say indie like a dude in a bedroom, closet, living room, his potna crib, that old garage, beat up house transformed studio. We gettin bucks down here and u seem all upset about it. And why u callin fans dumb. Wtf are u in music for. Let ppl do what they do. Oh and I guess u rockin suites and shit. If u don't like the style move away. If u still hearing it u ain't moved far enuf. Or turn off the radio. Or make something so spectacular that the whole game shifts to ur style. If not STFU. Hating on tha south. U don't know about this.

Wooooooooooow............

lol

[t.dizzle]

Originally Posted by soundeq

Artists have MUCH bigger ego's than any mixer ever will.

This isn't always true. In fact, sometimes the mixer's ego is the problem when the artist/producer asks us to do things that we don't really like to do. But if we drop our ego for a moment and realize that it's really their music, their voice, their sound and understand that artists on the level of a Shakira know what they want to hear, then sometimes we can push ourselves to work harder and find ways to make everyone happy. And in the end, that only makes us better at what we do.

But the A&R dude - dfegad

[World Of Wiz]

Originally Posted by jikkyboy11

dfegad Coolout

You're a joke ass hater. Don't hate cause the south doing thangs. And yea a lot of indie south sounds just like it's supposed to. Mixtapeish. The real CDs get mixed and mastered if they have a budget. U did say indie like a dude in a bedroom, closet, living room, his potna crib, that old garage, beat up house transformed studio. We gettin bucks down here and u seem all upset about it. And why u callin fans dumb. Wtf are u in music for. Let ppl do what they do. Oh and I guess u rockin suites and shit. If u don't like the style move away. If u still hearing it u ain't moved far enuf. Or turn off the radio. Or make something so spectacular that the whole game shifts to ur style. If not STFU. Hating on tha south. U don't know about this.

You guys down south are not getting that much paper. Hip Hop sales are down 36%. As much as they burnLafft Taffy and snap music on the radio it didn't sell well.

[jikky]

Originally Posted by World Of Wiz

You guys down south are not getting that much paper. Hip Hop sales are down 36%. As much as they burnLafft Taffy and snap music on the radio it didn't sell well.

Yea thats kool and dandy. I'm just saying no one should hate on a different region and different strokes for different folks. Sales don't mean much down south. Well Texas particularly. Sales are hand to hand no tracking really. But there is money flowing through the south. Enough to draw ppl's attention and make them forever hate the snap, walk it out, 2 step, laffy taffy, etc. That stuff is selling. Why hate on a product that's selling. I would think the whole point of this is to put out a product that everyone likes or tha majority. If ppl like it. Put it out. Let the ppl be the judge. If they dance to it kool. If they don't kool. But criticizing a style or a way is stupid. Just cause you (not u particularly) don't like it. If it's making its way into pop culture then let it be. If the new style was to start hanging on the corner again and banging trash cans and rappin to a beat I wouldn't knock it. Shit I'd join it. It's certain music I don't listen to, but I don't say that its garbage and ppl who listen to it are stupid or simple or slow or whatever ole dude said. If I don't like it I just don't listen to it. If I was asked my opinion about it I would give my opinion on it, but I wouldn't say fans are stupid and that the whole creative process that many ppl are emulating is garbage. Thats just rediculous.

[TheGetDown]

Originally Posted by jikkyboy11

I would think the whole point of this is to put out a product that everyone likes or tha majority.

um actually the whole point is to put out music that the artist is feeling, not to sell a producttutt ....I mean thats the way it SHOULD be