I need help syncing protools with an mpc

[Royilltee@yahoo]

Yo whats going on If any one knows how to sync protools and an mpc 4000, please help me out im ripping my hair out tryna figure this one. Much respect
Royilltee

[cpu]

did you try sending midi beat clock to whatever midi port the mpc is on, then set the mpc to recieve midi clock?

[Royilltee@yahoo]

yeah but i got the old mbox that doesnt have a midi inut but its got a spdif connections, where do i find the menu in protools to select which in put to use

[s.d.finley]

You cannot send/recieve MIDI Time Code without a Midi Interface. You need to purchase a midi interface. Once you have that, sync one to another. Some people like to sync PT to the MPC and others, the other way around.

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[s.d.finley]

Or Midi Beat Clock.....

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[Royilltee@yahoo]

yeah thanks man i didnt think you could so one was sayin they could with a usb cable too but i didnt think so

[cpu]

yeah...the usb on the mpc's are just for file transfer...can't do midi with it.

[Royilltee@yahoo]

yeah i figured that ... so i went and got a midi device but i still cant figue out how to sync it in protools do you no what menu i have to go under to set it up thanks man much respect

[nukmusic]

the Protools/MPC2500 sync is junk on my end. Everything is locked up, but Protools somehow changes the groove of the audio on the MPC2500. Kinda like its requantizing the sequence info. Like if you a have a 16th note snare fill at the end of a sequence(tat tat tat tat tat tat)....the 2500 will not play it as smooth when it clocked(midi beat) to Protools. I can't seem to figure out why. I recorded a pass clocked to protools and then on another track, recorded a 2nd pass but trigging the mpc by hand and not clocked to PT. Compared them and you can hear the difference. I guess its hand trigging the MPC from now on...or until they fix what every the problem is.

I double check everything, BPM, cables, settings, etc. And on searching here and on mpc-forums. seems like other folks are have the same problems. Some think its a PT 6.7-7.2 problem But I think someone had the same problem on D. Performer, and another on Logic.

[Imagearho]

I have the same problem when trying to sync my mpc1000 to protools. The groove (quantization) of the song seems to change when clocked from protools. I can't figure out for the life of me why this is happening. Also...how do you sync protools to your mpc so the computer acts as the slave? Never figured that out!

[Mr Generic]

"I have the same problem when trying to sync my mpc1000 to protools. The groove (quantization) of the song seems to change when clocked from protools."

IIRC midi clock is only accurate to 1/24th of a second. The internal timing accuracy of an MPC is much higher than that. So when you run from an external clock it downgrades the accuracy of the timing.

[Polyphony]

protools sux when it comes to 'time' in midi.
Just use the MPC as your main sequencer then dump audio into protools.

hope that helps,
Poly

[djsmuv]

In pro tools first go to the peripherals tab and click generic mtc reader to your midi out - . then go to the sychronization tab and send Midi Machine Control to the same midi out .

Leave all preroll/device id settings alone.

Then goto session setup tab and send MTC to your same midi out . dont even fuss with smpte clock or fps .
set your mpc for MMC and Midi Clock as the time base .setup your IN port (a,b,etc)
plug in the midi cord to the correct ports and

walla

works for me every time ( i use a midisport 2x2 with THE NEWEST drivers ), my mpc2k locks like a pitbull to pro tools , cubasesx , FL or whatever .

Please note however , Ive used many different midi devices in my PC's and , it makes a huge difference which kind i used to master my mpc to . The Pro Tools midi out (digi 001 / 6.4) is a DOG. it will not spit accurate time to my mpc no matter what i try ,its pure slop .

My mididsport wasnt always spot on , it was unusable for a good 3 years up until they released the latest drivers .

But My most successful midi device was the joystick port/soundcard thingy built onto the Motherboard (That setup was ROCK Solid - running Win 98 no less !) , however It was a hassle getting it setup to work in Pro Tools properly .

hope this helps

[Polyphony]

Originally Posted by djsmuv

In pro tools first go to the peripherals tab and click generic mtc reader to your midi out - . then go to the sychronization tab and send Midi Machine Control to the same midi out .

Leave all preroll/device id settings alone.

Then goto session setup tab and send MTC to your same midi out . dont even fuss with smpte clock or fps .
set your mpc for MMC and Midi Clock as the time base .setup your IN port (a,b,etc)
plug in the midi cord to the correct ports and

walla

works for me every time ( i use a midisport 2x2 with THE NEWEST drivers ), my mpc2k locks like a pitbull to pro tools , cubasesx , FL or whatever .

Please note however , Ive used many different midi devices in my PC's and , it makes a huge difference which kind i used to master my mpc to . The Pro Tools midi out (digi 001 / 6.4) is a DOG. it will not spit accurate time to my mpc no matter what i try ,its pure slop .

My mididsport wasnt always spot on , it was unusable for a good 3 years up until they released the latest drivers .

But My most successful midi device was the joystick port/soundcard thingy built onto the Motherboard (That setup was ROCK Solid - running Win 98 no less !) , however It was a hassle getting it setup to work in Pro Tools properly .

hope this helps

really huh? thanx dude....that really helps out...I thought a midi port was a midi port...very cool....thnx
poly

[halfguard]

any tricks for the 1000? no mmc or mtc

[brian_delizza]

halfguard i think your only option would be to slave the MPC to Pro Tools using beat clock.

But, I agree with Polyphony, and I just dump audio into Pro Tools.

[ebworld]

I don't know if this helps, but I got Logic 5.5 on Pc. I use midi clock. I give about a couple bars on the mpc 1000 . Leave Logic on auto sync in the preferences, then push play on the mpc. Logic follows my mpc. Then i chop the couple bars off and export to protools. I got the new beta version on the mpc 1000, which has improved my timing on the mpc 1000.

[dsound]

So just to be clear, If I send Midi Clock to MPC from Logic, will I loose the great MPC quantize?

I've tried to do it the other way around but Logic behaves weird. I doesn't sync up and the audio even slows down like vari speed

[Mossberg]

Slaving my MPC to the DAW, only works if I use MIDI Beat Clock. MTC does not work for me.

[O'Ryan]

Digidesign | Support | Configuration of Pro Tools and MPC-2000 and other MPC Models for sync using MIDI Beat Clock and MIDI Time Code on Windows XPPro Tools 6.9 or Higher.


Thank me later.

[ninjasoards]

Syncing my 1000 to my MBox with beat clock sux, MTC works fine

Both beat clock and MTC suck when syncing it to my Project Mix.

Here's what I do:

1. Turn the Count In to REC+PLAY on the MPC
2. Record the tracks
3. Tab to Transient to the 1st click on each track, Slice the track
4. In Shuffle Mode delete the blank spaces at the front of the tracks
5. Switch to Grid Mode and select the first four bars of each track
6. Switch back to Shuffle Mode and delete the first four bars of each track

Ofcourse the tempo needs to be set in Pro Tools.

[dsound]

Originally Posted by ninjasoards

Both beat clock and MTC suck when syncing it to my Project Mix.




3. Tab to Transient to the 1st click on each track, Slice the track

And of course this can be done in Logic 8 now too. This really does seem like the best way to go.