abelton live vs fl studio

[wreckingstuff]

Just get them both or demo them both, they are both very good and easy to use.

[CharlesEdward]

Their like pair of titties all in your face.lol Seriously though if you bout chopping up samples and programing drums then ableton is king, but if you the melody arranger type then fl studio is good for that and programing some tight drums as well. Both have great work flow. Fl studio is the best as far as midi programing goes, cause you can draw in chords with one click and set view settings to help you with scales and programing melodies. But if you accustomed to the mpc type of programing then ableton is best for that. You can literally go in and out of overdub mode when laying drums and delete stuff on the fly without ever stoping the sequencer, which is pretty tight when you in the moment. Also no double notes when the sequencer loops around like some these other daws, closest thing to an mpc sequencer and way better imo. Plus ableton got warping which is something you need to be up on if you really wanna twist and mangle some samples. Two best daws for production purposes hands down. If you really want to master the one of these daws then get a groove3.com all acces pass and download the demo. Also master the key commands, its the best way to really get into the work flow and learn all the functionality of that daw. Here is alink to some key command sets i created. If you have an iphone or ipad then download the Flashcard Pro app for a dollar and upload the sets from quizlet.com. You can easily learn all the key commands in a week with this app.

http://quizlet.com/subject/ableton-live-8/

http://quizlet.com/subject/fl-studio/

[Sampire]

I would say FL Studio is far easier to learn

[CharlesEdward]

Originally Posted by Sampire

I would say FL Studio is far easier to learn

Whys that?

[Classicbeats101]

Hate to sound like a dbag buts this has been discussed a lot already. There should be a lot of threads like this if you use the search bar.

[CharlesEdward]

Originally Posted by Classicbeats101

Hate to sound like a dbag buts this has been discussed a lot already. There should be a lot of threads like this if you use the search bar.

You just wasted ten seconds of your life. If you not gonna build or add on then keep it moving.

[03.31.83]

Originally Posted by Classicbeats101

Hate to sound like a dbag buts this has been discussed a lot already. There should be a lot of threads like this if you use the search bar.

What makes you think YOU are a dbag? Did YOU not use the search bar?
(just kidding, guys!)

[DAH]

dumbboyz123
u can get the demos of both
WTF the thread?

[FLYBOYZ123]

Originally Posted by DAH

dumbboyz123
u can get the demos of both
WTF the thread?

No need for the shit talking

[Jonbeatz]

Fl studio is much easier to me and more user friendly. There a lot of tutorials on fl studio but then again is there for every other software. Just a matter of preference. No one is better then the other when it comes to quality and as a Producer that should say enough.

[Tnevz]

You can do quality work in both.
I have ableton and have used it for 4-5 years. BUT I will say that because of how ableton is designed and layed out FL would probably be your best bet unless your strictly wanting to do pop, electronic music, or lots of sample based stuff. Plus, the full version of ableton is more than twice the cost of fl studio. Which, fl studio gives you lifetime upgrades free and ableton will charge you $2-300 for the next version in all likelyhood.

[CharlesEdward]

Originally Posted by Tnevz

You can do quality work in both.
I have ableton and have used it for 4-5 years. BUT I will say that because of how ableton is designed and layed out FL would probably be your best bet unless your strictly wanting to do pop, electronic music, or lots of sample based stuff. Plus, the full version of ableton is more than twice the cost of fl studio. Which, fl studio gives you lifetime upgrades free and ableton will charge you $2-300 for the next version in all likelyhood.

This is a rap+hiphop engineering & production forum right? What does pop music got to do with anything, and how does ableton influence your style of music production over any other daw? You make no sense.

[The Aristocrat]

Originally Posted by FLYBOYZ123

Which is better?? abelton live or FL studio? Which is easier to use for a beginner. I want to master one of these daws

Here is my take on this...first of all your question and forgive me if I sound a tad blunt is far too vague. Best for what? midi? recording?automation?tracking? user friendliness...there are far too many variables for us to tell you what the "better" of the two DAWS and at the end of the day our assessments will be entirely subjective.

Additionally threads like these have been discussed, re - discussed and then discussed after that and after that and after that. Point is the search bar is your friend and you will find a significant amount of information by looking something like this up because as I said before it has been discussed long past the extent of flogging a dead horse.

Now to the meat of the matter. In my opinion I honestly think that for a beginner FL Studio is more conducive to learning than Ableton. I think that if you were dropped in a room with no instructions but to learn these DAWS and no help from anyone that you would have a significantly easier time picking up FL. Everything is pretty straight forward, you can practically learn the basics in a few hours on your own by just pressing buttons and a little common sense. As for ableton I think the learning curve is a little bit more difficult. I have used both for a bit and I had a much more difficult time trying to learn ableton on my own. At this point I don't think it would be necessary to be thinking about achieving professional results. That will come over time with hard work and dedication, sorry to sound a bit cliche. If later on you do decide that you want more out of your DAW because of limitations that you are having then by all means switch DAWS, even rewire them to achieve maximum results. But at no point should you make a decision to use a tool someone else is using just because they are a big name. You will find more now than ever that great music is being made on every platform imaginable and that more of your thought processes will be directed towards making something sound innovative and different as opposed to buying more and more gear to fill a void that shouldn't be filled with purchases. If you cannot create music because of the DAW you are using then it is time to stop and re-evaluate your abilities.

Lastly, demo demo demo. We won't be making the music for you...so we cannot tell you what is better for you. Sit down and think what exactly it is that you want to do within the digital realm and then do some research because despite what we tell you the better or best DAW may be...it will entirely be subjective and only you can make a decision as to what is better for you. Most of it not all DAWS require nothing but a simple download to demo, get a feel of the program...don't like it? delete it and download a new demo.
Now after that lengthy dissertation if you have say a particular facet to your musical ability that you wish to exploit through your DAW say your ability to play piano or any musical instrument then by all means feel free to ask more questions so that we can help make your decision easier.

[CharlesEdward]

Originally Posted by The Aristocrat

Here is my take on this...first of all your question and forgive me if I sound a tad blunt is far too vague. Best for what? midi? recording?automation?tracking? user friendliness...there are far too many variables for us to tell you what the "better" of the two DAWS and at the end of the day our assessments will be entirely subjective.

Additionally threads like these have been discussed, re - discussed and then discussed after that and after that and after that. Point is the search bar is your friend and you will find a significant amount of information by looking something like this up because as I said before it has been discussed long past the extent of flogging a dead horse.

Now to the meat of the matter. In my opinion I honestly think that for a beginner FL Studio is more conducive to learning than Ableton. I think that if you were dropped in a room with no instructions but to learn these DAWS and no help from anyone that you would have a significantly easier time picking up FL. Everything is pretty straight forward, you can practically learn the basics in a few hours on your own by just pressing buttons and a little common sense. As for ableton I think the learning curve is a little bit more difficult. I have used both for a bit and I had a much more difficult time trying to learn ableton on my own. At this point I don't think it would be necessary to be thinking about achieving professional results. That will come over time with hard work and dedication, sorry to sound a bit cliche. If later on you do decide that you want more out of your DAW because of limitations that you are having then by all means switch DAWS, even rewire them to achieve maximum results. But at no point should you make a decision to use a tool someone else is using just because they are a big name. You will find more now than ever that great music is being made on every platform imaginable and that more of your thought processes will be directed towards making something sound innovative and different as opposed to buying more and more gear to fill a void that shouldn't be filled with purchases. If you cannot create music because of the DAW you are using then it is time to stop and re-evaluate your abilities.

Lastly, demo demo demo. We won't be making the music for you...so we cannot tell you what is better for you. Sit down and think what exactly it is that you want to do within the digital realm and then do some research because despite what we tell you the better or best DAW may be...it will entirely be subjective and only you can make a decision as to what is better for you. Most of it not all DAWS require nothing but a simple download to demo, get a feel of the program...don't like it? delete it and download a new demo.
Now after that lengthy dissertation if you have say a particular facet to your musical ability that you wish to exploit through your DAW say your ability to play piano or any musical instrument then by all means feel free to ask more questions so that we can help make your decision easier.

I was gonna tear into your post, but you ended on a good note.

[Methlab]

FL Studio hands down for beats. It's easier, free updates for life..inexpensive..has great feel just off using the step sequencer without any tweaks..MIDI is very easy to edit..arrangements are very easy to do.

I just could not wrap my head around ableton and I tried. I think they are bothy great products, but FLstudio has a track record in hip hop that is up there with the MPC.