none of the artists you cited are particularly glitchy and obviously predate the OT. for that kind of music i'd say the MPC paired with a DAW for tracking/fx would be enough. the new MPC Renaissance might be what your looking for.. plus the 4 midi outs also make it a great brain sequencer for your moog,tempest etc.. but if you are really set on glitching, mangling and pitch shifting samples within hardware, look no further the OT is what you need. paired with the tempest, could be a deadly combo..
hmmm... well, good points. something tells me that the mpc isn't right for me, but i kind of want one at the same time. we'll see i guess! thanks for the advice though, i'll sleep on it for a while and weigh my options.
I'm currently debating if I want an MPC 3000 or a 2000xl ... I'm not so sure the 3000 is really worth double (or more) the price of the 2000xl, and the 2000xl isn't TOO hard to find with an SD reader....I really don't think I'm going to be 'using floppies'.
I have never seen this 'octatrack' before...I'm gonna check it out.
I sold my MPC a long time back and although i love them don't regret it. Had a play with a friends Octa the other day. Was a little slow as quite a lot to get used to and learn but really enjoyed the functionality. it could do things and well that i dont think i can achieve with as much ease in my current set up. While the MPC is a lovely bit of kit - the functionality can be replicated with ease in most samplers. The octa is in another league as far as i'm concerned.
I sold my MPC a long time back and although i love them don't regret it. Had a play with a friends Octa the other day. Was a little slow as quite a lot to get used to and learn but really enjoyed the functionality. it could do things and well that i dont think i can achieve with as much ease in my current set up. While the MPC is a lovely bit of kit - the functionality can be replicated with ease in most samplers. The octa is in another league as far as i'm concerned.
I agree, the immediacy of the 16-step layout makes it stand out from what you can do on any other sampler. Whereas there isn't much differentiating an MPC workflow from a DAW + controller workflow... this is why Maschine and the new MPC Renn were an expected evolution for the platform.
I love how much the octatrack is geared towards live performance, and it will only get better as they improve realtime sampling and add looping machines. I think it's a really unique device that has a niche in the market because there's no easy way to replicate the workflow on a computer.
Again i think the OT is awesome...just not for hip-hop oriented beats, and the workflow is a real handicap (so many menus & button combos for simple tasks)
I had the Elektron MD-UW for several years, same sequencer as the OT and it could load samples. the 16 step sequencer is great for making 4/4 drums but not so much for programming a live feel... it really depends on what kind of music you're making, i see how the OT could actually be the bomb for Trap Muzik as they do mad 808 half/double tempo tricks using the grid in FL, but for classic east/west coast beats the MPC remains king of the hill imo
Yes but not slider.Altho you can resample that.Great machine if not a lil awkward (Gotta learn which buttons to press ).
It does a look a bit tedious. I just watched the OT know how video #8, it took that guy thru quite alot parameters to make that guitar loop. Still, I think im going to try one out.
As good as the JJOS is, I think I'll be sticking to the original Akai OS forever. And the reason is simple. No direct record = no sale.
It's such a huge feature to be leaving out... and audio tracks don't stack up. Until JJ releases a direct record option, where you can record takes while the beat is still playing... I can't justify buying it. Or recommend it. At least not to anyone that uses keyboards and external gear.
what do you mean by this exactly, what is direct record and how do you use it?
If you like to play with your samples and listen/sequence then in a unique way,get th OT.The problem with the public perception of the OT is based on the complete mangling of the samples on YT.It works as a regular sampler as well.Can sound clear and grainy at the same time if you know what i mean :~1
Yeah, for me it was more about how I use ableton so much for sequencing I wasn't sure whether I wanted to add anything to that. I rarely sequence anything too complex on the mpc, preferring to just track it out as soon as I have something simple I like. It just looks like a fun bit of kit though, even if it's complicated initially.
i recently purchased an octatrack, i own an old mpc 60, i should point out that i am a techno guy that like to dabble in breaks so that's the stuff i'm working towards
the octatrack is amazing at taking say a simple guitar strum on 1 chord to morphing and transforming it into an evolving pad type of sound, you can just smear and mangle the sounds
for that kind of thing it is amazing! a the lfos are rad to cause your sounds to slowly change and evolve so to speak
as a drum machine, honestly i feel my mpc 60 is superior, the workflow of actually playing along with the velocity and timing correct key thingy for fast dynamic hats or whatever is just phenomenal, i don't feel the octatrack can touch the mpc in that regard. the mpc is just a superior beat building machine, no idea here about newer ones and jjos but the old mpc60 v3 os is superior by leaps and bounds for drums
the octatrack is more like an xox type tr machine for beat building, the way track mute works is lame too as it cuts off the tails of a long 808 decay kick for instance or the tail of reverb, so you end up having to use scenes with the sample trigger volume at 0 just to cleanly mute. there are only 2 outputs as well so that could be a big issue for folks used to using many mpc outputs
well i have not had the octatrack for more than a few weeks and am far from am mpc pro so i will end with that, peace out guys n gals
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Still, I think im going to try one out.
