Originally Posted by RonGherkins
I'm demo'ing melodyne with the 30 day demo right now and I just can't make it do what I want as fast, and there are parts of it that are more than what I need as well, like the chord thing.
I would say it goes much more easier when you have a melodyne ninja run you through it in person. That's what i did. It's very easy to make sound bad but once you get the hang of it does some amazing things. I never used it on rappers though, only singers.
They are all just tools and if you use them or not it will not make an un-hit a hit either way. The final product is all that matters. If you choose not to use these tools you better make sure your singer is dead on accurate because anything slightly off will be considered amateur hour when you submit it.
There has always been smoke and mirrors in the record making process. We tuned vocals, comp'd vocal takes, flew chorus', etc. It just took hours (in the case of comping maybe days) then instead of minutes. We fixed whatever we could fix with the available technology of the time. If we had Melodyne, Autotune, Vocalign back then we would have used it.
Here's a quote on this forum from Tony Maserati that speaks on autotune:
Originally Posted by Tony Maserati
I don't think we need to make comments about the aesthetics, regarding the use of autotune. As far as I'm conserned if it's used as a trick or hook, it's no different than a choice of instrument. If it's used to make a bad singer sound better; that's just our business fella's, get used to it. There's smoke and mirror's happening all over the charts in every catagory!
Originally Posted by psycho_monkey
I'm too young to have been there personally, but I also heard engineers tell me about flying vocal choruses around by offsetting tape machines, tightening bass to drums using spot erasing (there was a sound on sound article about blondie where the producer who's name escapes me for the moment - mike someone?!- went into it), tuning vocals using eventides controlled by faders to "ride" the pitch, and so on.
I'd generally maintain that computers don't let you do much new, they just let you do it faster and (often) better.