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Old 23rd February 2012   #1
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Transferring WAVs from PC to ASR-X

What would be the cheapest, most efficient way to transfer WAV files straight to the ASR-X PRO from the PC without sampling?

Can a scsi to usb cable be used on the second scsi plug on a zip drive to connect the PC to the ZIP drive WHILE its connected to the ASR-X?



I'm trying to avoid getting an USB zip drive to use with the PC, to then transfer files via disk to the second zip drive.
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i think this was discontinued though : (

the regular way is to buy an internal scsi adapter card for your computer for $15 on ebay. most brands should work but adaptec is probably the most trusted

also read this from asrxcite:
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I did the SCSI-USB adapter thing. You can't put a SCSI drive in the chain. It has to be connected directly to the X's SCSI port. And of course you can't hotplug SCSI drives. So if you go that route then you're limited to saving on floppies.

Unfortunately, the easiest and cheapest way to do it is to get a USB Zip...
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I did the SCSI-USB adapter thing. You can't put a SCSI drive in the chain. It has to be connected directly to the X's SCSI port. And of course you can't hotplug SCSI drives. So if you go that route then you're limited to saving on floppies.

Unfortunately, the easiest and cheapest way to do it is to get a USB Zip...
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this was not science fiction back in 2000 when the asr-x was new. you just had to buy a scsi controller card for your computer, connect a cable to the x's zip drive and you could send files to the zip drive and possibly direct to the x. usb does not work, except for that thing in the video which is discontinued
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that thing in the video can still be found on the used market. Everything SCSI has been discontinued. Since about 2001 or so...
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I remember people would connect to their asrx to PC via SCSI, I never quite knew what they were transferring and I never had a need to try it. I just feel that buying a USB zip drive for $20 on craigslist our Ebay is the easiest solution.

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that thing in the video can still be found on the used market. Everything SCSI has been discontinued. Since about 2001 or so...
remember that the asr-x was discontinued before the scsi cards, which are readily available on ebay for cheap as is a scsi cable. i still have yet to try connecting to computer, although i do have an internal cf in the x though so it will be a simple set up
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SCSI

The good old day of the scsi cards. My how things have changed.
Yeah unfortunatley you have to use scsi for that transfer.

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scsi cards, which are readily available on ebay for cheap as is a scsi cable.
Well... they don't make computers with PCI slots anymore either...
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Unfortunately, the easiest and cheapest way to do it is to get a USB Zip...
This!!
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Thanks for the help.


So if I get an USB Zip, will I need any other software, etc?


Can I just stick the PC WAVs in the usb zips folder, remove the disks, insert in the SCSI Drive and upload the WAVs?
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Yup. no convoluted software or process needed. Just put the wav file on the zip, and stick it in the X.

Just one thing though, the wav file has to be 16 bit 44.1k, but I'm sure you already knew that. And just as a general note, the X's native file format is aiff, so when import a wav on the X, it will convert it into an aiff, and when you resave, it will save it in that format.
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mabe i should snag one, but ive found i can sample into the asr so fast I dont even need to mess with scsi. but I might grab one for saving. I dont really even save on those old samplers for nowdays. last time i needed to save some stuff on the asr it tool 17 discs...
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I'm the uploader of the video above.
I'm still working on Windows XP. For SMDI (sample transfer over SCSI) you also need an ASPI layer. Adaptec did not make ASPI drivers after Win XP, so I'm a little afraid upgrading to WIN7 (or 8 in the near future).
Anyone experience with SMDI and WIN7?
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does this work on the asr-10 too or do i have to convert my wav files to asr-10 file formats?
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does this work on the asr-10 too or do i have to convert my wav files to asr-10 file formats?
Transfer of WAV files over SCSI to the ASR-10 will NOT work, but you can transfer WAV's to the ASR-10 over MIDI (MIDI SDS). This is very slow, but it will work.

Of course you can also convert the WAV's first to "ASR-10 format" with Chikensys translator or Ensoniq Disk tools etc.
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Yeah Scsi adapters don't work on ASRs or MPCs


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does this work on the asr-10 too or do i have to convert my wav files to asr-10 file formats?
No it won't work the ASRx reads wav files,the ASR10-88 don't.
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To be more specific:

You can transfer WAV-files directly without converting over SCSI to the ASR-X
You can transfer WAV-files directly without converting over MIDI to the ASR-10

If you want to use WAV files without tranfering them over SCSI/MIDI:
*ASR-X uses DOS format file system and can read AIFF and WAV files directly
*ASR-10 uses Ensoniq format file system. You must confert the WAV files with special software.
For example: Chickensys Tranlator
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All this stuff takes too long trust me just sample into it
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All this stuff takes too long trust me just sample into it
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Transfer over midi is slow. I agree, but I did use it in the past with the ASR-10.
I used propellerhead recycle 2.0. This had a advantage that it also create an instrument and mapped the samples automatically.

Batch transfer of samples over SCSI to the ASR-X is, to my opinion, much qicker then sampling everything.
If it's just 1 sample, then sampling is quicker.

But you don't have to decide what methode you want to use, you can use both (sampling or transfering) if your sampler is connected to a PC correctly.
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