ASR-10 (check)...what's next?

[theNovice]

So I picked up an ASR-10 with the purple screen off craigslist here in NY for $300 with the SCSI and it works perfectly just has a few lines in the top of the lcd but I can see everything I'm doing. As of right now (working to get a turntable and start collecting vinyl) I sample from my macbook pro from youtube or downloaded songs from the 60s-80s or video game soundtracks lol and have a 1/8 cable to 1/4 going into my echo audio fire 2 then a 1/4 cable from the output of the echo into my asr...I was thinking about either getting Balance with reason essentials and use that to make full songs and learn to mix and master, OR, I was really stoked to get a roland vs 1880 or korg d1600 etc virtual station(250-350 on ebay now) or the boss br900cd. What would be some options you guys would take now in 2012? Would it be a good idea to combine my asr with the MPC-R that will be releasing? I really don't know but that's why i came here to ask you guys. I never messed with hardware until I got the asr-10 and i said to myself the night i got it, why was i waiting so long to try hardware and realized I love being hands on. I sampled some kung fu from my dvd player too lol to try and make a wutang style beat lol

EDIT: My cousin played guitar over it lol using his gaming headset mic for the comp but I just want to know if i plug my asr into the reason balance or roland vs 1880 it will sound a lot more professional and especially if I use vinyl?
http://soundcloud.com/robbygee/asr-a...floating-ideas

[Audio Child]

I cant take any1 serious who samples from youtube sorry!

Start collecting those vinyls asap!

[AbsoluteSpirit]

Reason 6 is great - download the demo and try it out...

Balance is overpriced IMO but it may have features you want (I think clipsafe only works for a mono signal)

The new software MPC range is great on paper but you may want to let other people be the beta testers and get real world reviews before you part with cash

All the other DAWs have their own pros & cons too...

Personally I wouldn't bother with the hardware, unless you really need to record 8 tracks at once - its out of date, will likely bring hassles instead of a productive workflow and your Mac can do all the rest and more.

[drollz]

You can buy a portable turntable at Guitar Center for $70 -- the Numark PT-01 USB. Dilla used it. You don't need a mixer since it has a line level output. Then you can buy records for a buck apiece anywhere. Don't sample off of YouTube, please. It's lame. And it's disrespectful to your ASR-10.

[beyondat]

I have sampled off of YouTube and will continue to do so. The chances of hearing a rare sample on YouTube and actually going to a record store and finding it are next to impossible!, unless you are sampling Stevie Wonder! Yes the quality isn't the best but you have to make due with what you have. So many gems on YouTube, good luck finding the actual vinyl.

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[DJ TEKNIK]

Samples from youtube FTW!!

[theNovice]

Wow i was so thrilled to see these replies! Happy u guys did thank you. i know sampling off youtube is disrespectful i just wanted to learn how to chop on the asr i needed to save up some money lol a waiter can only get so much at once lol. But i was planning eventually to get vinyl. I dont get how i would sample into the asr from using a usb vinyl player...i want an analog record player so i dont lose quality.

[drollz]

The USB record player has regular analog outputs too. It has a built-in phono preamp, so you don't even need to run it to a mixer. It can go right from the turntable to the ASR. It's $99 new at Guitar Center -- they're often on sale. I gave you the model #. You can buy vinyl for $1 all over. If you need specific stuff, look on eBay. Then there are the drum break compilations on vinyl, too, which are better than YouTube. You can do it, man! You already made the big investment in getting the ASR. The rest is chump change.

[theNovice]

Nah word up man I really appreciate that help and info. Speaking of Guitar Center, I was there today and messed around with an mpc for the first time in my life....wow I really love the auto-correct timing sequencing. I wish I had the money to pair a mpc1000 o 2kxl with my asr-10 :(....but yeah I'm definitely getting that turntable i saw it today and good looking out on that output information I was worried it was only usb. Werd so vinyls really only $1 ? And obv more rarer records are bound to be more but I was just curious. Where would you recommend I buy vinyl I live in Glen Cove, Long Island and i don't know any music stores or thrift shops around here.

[MIDIchlorian]

Did you get the Asr,outboard expander?
If not that should be your next move.

[drollz]

Originally Posted by theNovice

Nah word up man I really appreciate that help and info. Speaking of Guitar Center, I was there today and messed around with an mpc for the first time in my life....wow I really love the auto-correct timing sequencing. I wish I had the money to pair a mpc1000 o 2kxl with my asr-10 :(....but yeah I'm definitely getting that turntable i saw it today and good looking out on that output information I was worried it was only usb. Werd so vinyls really only $1 ? And obv more rarer records are bound to be more but I was just curious. Where would you recommend I buy vinyl I live in Glen Cove, Long Island and i don't know any music stores or thrift shops around here.

I live in Saginaw, MI, and there is a record store within walking distance. There are several record stores in Flint. So you live in New York, man. There have to be literally hundreds around you. Every town of any size has a used record store. How about this place? Mr Cheapo - New and Used CD and Record Exchange, Long Island, NY

If you want to pair your ASR with an MPC, might I suggest a 2000 Classic, which is by far the cheapest MPC you can buy. You can get one on eBay for around $300. I think this is the set-up Kanye West originally used: ASR 10 + MPC 2000 Classic.

[drollz]

Originally Posted by MIDIchlorian

Did you get the Asr,outboard expander?
If not that should be your next move.

What is the outboard expander? Can it give the ASR multiple outs? I've always wanted an ASR 10, but I have balked at the stereo outs.

[MIDIchlorian]

Yup the outboard expander gives you 8 outs.
That's why I perver the asr10 rack,it has the outs built right in

[mrfortune]

Ok since I don't use Asr10 anymore though it's what I started with I'll give you some of my obvious secrets. Grab an effects rack , pedal whatever and run your samples through it. Run that through a bbe sonic maximizer doesn't really matter which one really, then you can have different versions of said sample before you even touch the asr10 effects. Make sure memory is expanded. I used to sample from vinyl, VHS,cd, this being before the Internet. Def gonna get another one when a good deal comes of 300 is a no brainer , also it's really dope paired with an mpc for drums, mpc 2000 can be found cheap

[MONSTA_ONE]

Originally Posted by theNovice

So I picked up an ASR-10 with the purple screen off craigslist here in NY for $300 with the SCSI and it works perfectly just has a few lines in the top of the lcd but I can see everything I'm doing. As of right now (working to get a turntable and start collecting vinyl) I sample from my macbook pro from youtube or downloaded songs from the 60s-80s or video game soundtracks lol and have a 1/8 cable to 1/4 going into my echo audio fire 2 then a 1/4 cable from the output of the echo into my asr...I was thinking about either getting Balance with reason essentials and use that to make full songs and learn to mix and master, OR, I was really stoked to get a roland vs 1880 or korg d1600 etc virtual station(250-350 on ebay now) or the boss br900cd. What would be some options you guys would take now in 2012? Would it be a good idea to combine my asr with the MPC-R that will be releasing? I really don't know but that's why i came here to ask you guys. I never messed with hardware until I got the asr-10 and i said to myself the night i got it, why was i waiting so long to try hardware and realized I love being hands on. I sampled some kung fu from my dvd player too lol to try and make a wutang style beat lol

EDIT: My cousin played guitar over it lol using his gaming headset mic for the comp but I just want to know if i plug my asr into the reason balance or roland vs 1880 it will sound a lot more professional and especially if I use vinyl?
ASR and Guitar floating ideas by Robby Gee on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

get a cf card reader for your asr 10 ..and a output expander .. and stop using youtube .. thats just pure lazy .. and thx you for making real hiphop

[evilpeezy]

First off, dont sample off youtube the encoding is not good, Second, you have a gem there ASR that says alot right there with 3 letters. I am a hands on person, I could not go back to software mouse clicking if I was given free software. Reason will be koo better yet anything would be its all relative. Get a good converter that is what will make leaps of difference when you have hardware. If you dont have good converters then dont bother with the ASR. Apogee Rosetta will compliment that ASR perfectly due to the added color it adds.

[Tnevz]

Congrats on the asr. Ive always wanted one.
Personally I'd get a daw and learn it like the back of my hand.
Logic comes to mind first because: you have a MacBook pro, it comes with lots of sounds, instruments, plugins and loops and I could see chopping some of the loops on the ASR 10 and having lots of fun with it.
Ableton and Protools also comes to mind.

I wouldnt worry about great converters at this point. You can go into an m audio, focusrite or rme interface and you'll be just fine.

[SEED78]

one thing about the output expander.

some people complain those extra outs don't sound as beefy as the stereo outs, so they track with the stereo outs - people also say with some of the MPC's have this issue too, so many track with stereo outs.

not entirely sure how true this is, I've got an output expander for my ASR but been too busy learning my MPC to get down with the ASR yet, will do in time though. am sure any difference with the extra outs would not be a game changer, nothing that couldn't be sorted with EQ surely. they are getting more rare now, worth grabbing one while you still can.

CF drive is a must, I have a external Spyrus - but internals are the bizz. make sure its a hot swap drive if at all possible.

another thing - the sequencer on the ASR is decent, but many many people choose not to use it as they prefer the MPC, so if you ever struggle with the sequencer don't sling the ASR in the bin, just get a cheap MPC 2000/2000xl/1000/60 and sequence the ASR with that - at the price I'd say a 60 is best from a midi point of view.

[Liquid360]

Output expander - Yes. You'll need it.

The first thing I bought after I got an Emax II (22 years ago) was the best analog synthesizer I could afford.

And don't sample from you-tube, the quality is horrendous.

[theNovice]

Like i said, i only practiced sampling off youtube just to learn the asr-10 machine and get busy. I have an echo audio fire 2 interface but should i get something else?
Ok well my turntable should be coming in wednesday so I'm going to take a trip to Mr. Cheapo and get some vinyl, so thank you for that drollz...funny thing is I actually used to live in Mineola and bought my first cd there (blink 182 enema of the state lol when i was a kid).

This Output Expander....what does it exactly do and what would I need it for so far? I don't really have the money and storage to get everything at this second....but I'm mostly going to be sample based and keys from logic or reason with a midi to usb cable i just ordered....quick question though...

Do I need a mixer? I read that pete rock used to eq before he sampled, is that necessary? And at the moment is an effects rack necessary? what kind of effects rack should i get..? something like the korg trinity tr rack? I honestly want to buy a studio monitor before I get anything else...right now I have the asr and I'm using my vizio 32" lcd as my speaker lol and my turntables coming in.

And as far as CF card reader...idk right now i have about 30 zip disks and a zip drive maybe later on I can afford to buy one lol.

And thanks again guys for the replies

EDIT: What if I got something like a Boss BR900CD or Korg D1600 or Roland VS1680/1880.....sorry for all these questions, I'm just new to hardware.

[MONSTA_ONE]

Originally Posted by Liquid360

Output expander - Yes. You'll need it.

The first thing I bought after I got an Emax II (22 years ago) was the best analog synthesizer I could afford.

And don't sample from you-tube, the quality is horrendous.

i wouldn't take any advice from you .. your a hater

..

[Below Zero]

Whats next is you give me your asr-10 for free

Thats the best advice i can give you

[theNovice]

Originally Posted by Below Zero

Whats next is you give me your asr-10 for free

Thats the best advice i can give you

Lmfao no problem below zero, u prefer ups or usps? Ill pay for shipping too :P. no but seriously, i think the bext thing i need is a studio monitor no? I was debating between yamaha hs50m or krk rokit but decided the mackie mr5 mk2.

[Tommycash]

If u want to go hardware for recording then save a few more bucks and get a VS2000 or 2400. They were the last to be made so the operating systems are more reliable and u can find one on ebay with the expansions already installed. U won't be sorry. Plus u can use 3rd party plugs if u want.

[wcb123]

Originally Posted by Audio Child

I cant take any1 serious who samples from youtube sorry!

Start collecting those vinyls asap!

Not ideal sampling from Youtube quality wise but its a convinient and a free way of gathering ideas. Plus there are thousands and thousands of great records to sample that never made it to Vinyl. All of which the guy (quoted) apparently doesn't care for.

OP, when you think your on to a winner with one of your tracks (made via Youtube) ideally look for the Vinyl or HQ Wav file and replace it in your mix. And smile to yourself in the knowledge that you just saved ££££'s on Bus fares/Fuel/Records you liked in the shop but will never use etc...

At the end of the day, Vinyl costs alot, and alot of the time it isn't available, too rare, or the track in question never made it to Vinyl in the first place; if it is great but dont let someone tell you 'thats not the way to do it'..

How your taken seriously depends on how good, and how well you mix the new track.

If its a good song and you can mix it well, your customers/fans won't even care (thats if any of them can tell in the first place)

[SEED78]

sampling from youtube with an ASR can be compared to buying a Ferrari and painting it with matt emulsion.

why get a great sounding sampler and feed it the worst quality audio you can find? sure its convenient - but people who buy oldschool samplers and are concerned about things being 'convenient' tend to stick those samplers up on ebay 6 months later when they discover that compared to software they are not actually that convenient all round until you've put the work in.

Plus there are thousands and thousands of great records to sample that never made it to Vinyl. All of which the guy (quoted) apparently doesn't care for.

yeah? x that by 1000 and you've got the music that came out on vinyl but hasn't made it to CD or youtube.

[Goa-Dubs]

Originally Posted by MONSTA_ONE

i wouldn't take any advice from you .. your a hater

..

Takes 1 2 know 1 ....

[theNovice]

Damn, more people reply trying to be right and teach me a lesson about youtube sampling then actually HELP me.....how about you guys don't worry about that anymore after clearly explaining why i was using it...you guys act like ive killed someone.

Plus, what if i sample a lot nicer than any of you, not trying to be a dick but im just saying, youtube vs vinyl does not mean creavity vs creativity....

I have logic pro and reason 5 u know maybe ill combine the best of both worlds and having an asr may not be convenient to you but having software doesn't do shit for me, i feel itll take 2 months to learn how to use the program rather than 2 weeks on my asr.

all i wanted to know what is what equipment to get next and im getting flamed for youtube..

[MONSTA_ONE]

Originally Posted by Goa-Dubs

Takes 1 2 know 1 ....

naw i know cuz i been hated on so much .

[theNovice]

OK so with all the hate going around ..... hate on my youtube sampling after hearing this

http://soundcloud.com/robbygee/asr-demo-2

I didn't rap over it or anything but it was a work in a progress...