what do you do when someone buys a beat, but they dont use it???

[mylesp]

i sell beats here and there to local artist but they used my beat. i was wondering what do you do when someone buys a beats and doesnt use it?

all i want form people when they buy my beats are this

1. put my name next to the song (produced by HEAT)

2. to send me the song when they are done(i might have a contract written up soon)


but if they dont use the beat then selling it was useless.

basically if they dont use it i want to sell it to someone else. i would lease beats but i dont want tons of people on my beats. i want one person to buy and whoever they get on the beat to make a song. i wont be able to hear the songs people make if i lease it.

[mikey boy]

if your work is good then people would use it but if they are not then maybe your work is not so good. Perhaps you could put something up so I can listen. Then I can judge for myself.

[MONSTA_ONE]

just be happy you sold the beat . or you can ask them to write an review as an happy customer .. i know some peole who have be siting on beats for years , but later on record to them .. ive also have beats i have made over 15 years ago and people still want then .. my point is thier no set rules in the music game .. just sit back and think what will make u most happy .. like make a contract if they buy the beat ..and dont use it within a time limit . you may sell it to some one else ..

[CJ Mastering]

but if they dont use the beat then selling it was useless.

What people do with what they buy is up to the person that buys it. You cant force them to use it and even send you the finished product, unless you have a singed contract staing that they need to use it and they need to send it to you free of charge.

Be happy you sold a song.

to answer your question, you spend the money. Thats what you do!

[Chris Lago]

You should be thankful that they bought it. I have tons of beats I bought and haven't recorded yet, + tons of instrumentals I was given and haven't recorded vocals on them yet.

[BobbyTheProducer]

This has happened to me before... My statute of limitations on unused beats is usually 1 year... Then its back on the market.

[Storyville]

Legally you can do whatever you want unless you granted them an exclusive license. Ethically, if they paid for it and you want it back you should refund the money.

[mp3]

Lease, don't sell.

Another option is to sell the exclusive rights to the beat but make the exclusive rights conditional upon the completion (and/or distribution) of a master recording.

I could think of a million different permutations on the concept, but the main thing is that you want to be able to make a move with that beat if the opportunity presents itself. If you agree to sell a beat then its gone. And if a bigger opportunity presents itself to you and the buyer doesn't agree to sell it back to you, then you're SOL.

[KevWest]

proceed not to care and enjoy their hard earned money

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by mikey boy

if your work is good then people would use it but if they are not then maybe your work is not so good. Perhaps you could put something up so I can listen. Then I can judge for myself.

not entirely accurate. Sometimes beat buyers can be fickle. I know guys who will use beats they got years later. Some guys have gigs of beats on their hard drive ready for use when they are ready. Not using doesn't mean not good but can often mean not yet.

[BobbyTheProducer]

The few times this has happened it was usually the type of "artist" with the manager, booking agent, website, business cards, and production all paid for, but when it's time to hit the studio, they catch writer's block for 6 months. In other words, they enjoy looking and feeling like a rapper, but never get around to actually rapping. It's not a reflection of the quality of the beat, just the work ethic of the artist... In my scenario anyway.

[LeoLeoLeo]

Easy!

Make another beat & sell it.

Repeat.

[mylesp]

Originally Posted by BobbyTheProducer

This has happened to me before... My statute of limitations on unused beats is usually 1 year... Then its back on the market.

do they sign a contract? its just i want sell my beats as music, not so much instrumentals anyone can get on. i dont want tons of people using the same beat. i also want to be able to hear all the songs made with it

[Audio Child]

If i buy a beat from you and i don't use it that would be my problem not yours! Simple!

Producers make big records for artist all the time and there tracks get leaked and don't even end up making the album! How you think they feel ?

[Thysta]

Originally Posted by mikey boy

if your work is good then people would use it but if they are not then maybe your work is not so good. Perhaps you could put something up so I can listen.

that can be the case but I've seen a hell of a lot artists who just lazy as hell.

You know those guys who want to be a rapper everytime they see a movie but forget about it a week later.

I had rappers begging me for beats and not using them. As a producer the hardest part is to get in touch with a REAL upcoming artist. Someone who'll still be grinding 6 month later.

[DAH]

if you sold it then refund the money if you want your beat back.
still not using the bought item should not bother the manufacturer. if the name dropping and marketing the ready song to the audience are your concerns, then put it down in the contract or let buyer know it.

[narcoman]

...not only that - but many "big league beats" aren't exclusive either; I've heard many a track appear on multiple songs (i hate calling 'em beats...) Sell it again and stop worrying about it! I know, I know - you have a desire to keep them from being in anyones hands.... but you're selling yourself short and not loving that fact that you got paid.

Forget "leasing" as well - you're selling a buy out option to exploit the track as they see fit. Charge for for exclusivity. Whether someone uses it or not .... so what? Happens all the time. I'd say only 50% of what goes out of my place ends up as commercial product. The rest is "also rans"....

[mylesp]

Originally Posted by narcoman

...not only that - but many "big league beats" aren't exclusive either; I've heard many a track appear on multiple songs (i hate calling 'em beats...) Sell it again and stop worrying about it! I know, I know - you have a desire to keep them from being in anyones hands.... but you're selling yourself short and not loving that fact that you got paid.

Forget "leasing" as well - you're selling a buy out option to exploit the track as they see fit. Charge for for exclusivity. Whether someone uses it or not .... so what? Happens all the time. I'd say only 50% of what goes out of my place ends up as commercial product. The rest is "also rans"....

no im glad to get paid. its just i want to hear music and not just receive money. i will though maybe have a contract stating they have a year to use it.

[anstahc]

Sitting on a beat does not reflect its quality in any way. I can't remember which song specifically, I think it was "New Wu', but Raekwon said in an interview he sat on a beat from Cuban Linx 2 for 5-6 years.

Also I know that Andre 3000 sat on Hey Ya for several years also.

[Itsgrandzbaby]

In the future you should be more picky with who you sell your beats to. Make sure they actually release songs and are getting a good responses from them.Also, make sure they know that you expect them to use it in a timely manner.

[windmillsound]

You think that making a beat makes you a producer? interesting.

[KT1]

Originally Posted by windmillsound

You think that making a beat makes you a producer? interesting.

Love this post! Since when did the artist contract you as a producer? You sold him a beat. The moment he paid (contract conditions apply) deal is done. Now move on.

[DAH]

Originally Posted by KT1

Love this post! Since when did the artist contract you as a producer? You sold him a beat. The moment he paid (contract conditions apply) deal is done. Now move on.

I guess either a) sell at a decent price + name drop 2) sell at a smaller price + get points as a producer

[KT1]

Originally Posted by DAH

I guess either a) sell at a decent price + name drop 2) sell at a smaller price + get points as a producer

Yeh suppose ..or just produce them using your music. Won't say beat friggin hate what that word means.

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[jrides]

Spend the cash and keep it mvong. Strange question.

[3rd Degree]

I can't tell you how many times I figured my beat just got passed on, only to have it be released 3-5 years later. Even I were to sell myself beats, many would take longer than a year to be released.

First of all, don't worry about it. That's part of it. Some people don't find a place on their album and may use it later. Some people will buy a hot beat to use whenever, not with a plan. Some people buy a beat and it doesn't make the album, that doesn't mean they can't use it later, if they want. Some people buy a beat and never come up with anything.


That said, I have had beats that I really felt should be used and didn't have faith that the artist I sold them to would use them, and someone else wanted it. In that case, I will ask the person I sold it to if I can buy it back from them. Rarely does this happen, even more rare would it be profitable for me to do. Only when their is a good reason do I buy someone out of their rights, and that is the key, I buy them out.

I don't do leases myself, so I can understand your frustrations.

You may want to use a small amount of beats for leases. I do most of my work locally so people are not interested in that. If I start really pushing things online, I will go to a lease system. Rarely have people approached me for exclusive online (for the right amount of money, people want $50-100 exclusives).

[Logical Mind]

Originally Posted by LeoLeoLeo

Easy!

Make another beat & sell it.

Repeat.

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