Good outboard processing around $600?

[jrides]

Originally Posted by KT1

Cleaner? I'm not sure i understand. I go out and in several times from my RME FF800. It sounds the same as when i do it from the Halo..So..it's transparent. The only time it starts to spaz out is after quite a few cycles.

What did you mean? i mean i agree converters are important to a degree but a simple cycle with a semi decent interface should be fine for this requirement.

Not a huge fan of FF800 compared to the Prism. I also spent some time with cheaper MR826x and liked it better. Whatever works for you though. No big deal. Everyone doesn't hear things the same way. I don't fine rme bad, but I wouldn't use it for this purpose. That's all.

If you are sending it out to euphoric gear, most converters will be fine. The positive of running a mix through a top notch piece can not be easily negated by prosumer converters. That's for sure.

Can't say I would bother if I had the OP budget though. Adding meh to meh equals meh.

[KT1]

Originally Posted by jrides

Not a huge fan of FF800 compared to the Prism. I also spent some time with cheaper MR826x and liked it better. Whatever works for you though. No big deal. Everyone doesn't hear things the same way. I don't fine rme bad, but I wouldn't use it for this purpose. That's all.

If you are sending it out to euphoric gear, most converters will be fine. The positive of running a mix through a top notch piece can not be easily negated by prosumer converters. That's for sure.

Can't say I would bother if I had the OP budget though. Adding meh to meh equals meh.

Oh don't get me wrong. I woudn't compare the converters in an RME to something like a prism. I mean it's worlds apart. My point was in trying to understand what you were hearing from an RME converter vs a Prism/Halo. I didn't hear any difference between the Halo cycles and the RME cycles. I did however after many a cycle RME - degrage Halo - nothing.

Also i should add my outboard are items like the culture vulture ( So not subtle processing) And most recently I have added a comp/saturator Loopmonster trotter. I consider these nice boxes and some of the other racks i get on loan have very nice boxes. I have never heard a difference.

My point is not to debate with you if that's the way it seems. I'm trying to understand what it is you're hearing assuming good quality Mojo boxes?

Thanks

[jrides]

Originally Posted by KT1

Also i should add my outboard are items like the culture vulture ( So not subtle processing) And most recently I have added a comp/saturator Loopmonster trotter. I consider these nice boxes and some of the other racks i get on loan have very nice boxes. I have never heard a difference.

This is part of what I was saying. If you are going through something with a lot of color, the converters do not really matter as much. The imprint of your chosen color box will be felt regardless. (Even on a soundblaster)

As for the RME... It to my ears was a bit grainy around the upper mids compared to the others. More agressive. They do a fine job of handling audio though. Also, I would not hesitate to use them on OTB with a not so subtle imprint. Even more subtle but hight quality gear like the GML etc, I would do this. With the gear that the OP is considering, I would think twice, thats all. Depending on the combo, he may be doing more harm that good.

[KT1]

Originally Posted by jrides

This is part of what I was saying. If you are going through something with a lot of color, the converters do not really matter as much. The imprint of your chosen color box will be felt regardless. (Even on a soundblaster)

As for the RME... It to my ears was a bit grainy around the upper mids compared to the others. More agressive. They do a fine job of handling audio though. Also, I would not hesitate to use them on OTB with a not so subtle imprint. Even more subtle but hight quality gear like the GML etc, I would do this. With the gear that the OP is considering, I would think twice, thats all. Depending on the combo, he may be doing more harm that good.

I understand ..many thanks for explaining.

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[jrides]

KT1,

Keep in mind that we both know, in the right hands someone with a FF800 can smoke an amateur with a higher end converter. Its all relative. I think my posts above were really more splitting hairs. The OP's budget has me a bit more sensitive to the converter side of things than I normally am. Its all a balancing act. If the FF800 is all I had to work with, and I had no other choices, people would get smoked with it. I assure you.

[cpu]

Originally Posted by JBlongz

BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer.

Please don't do that to your music. You'll thank me later.

[okailla]

lol. got rid of it the next day i purchased it. i think in our (digital) days u dont really need an exciter

[okailla]

I dont get tired to recommend these to people: get youself some vintage german broadcast modules like siemens, telefunken, emt, lawo, filtek bfe, neumann
can easily be obtained for 400 the pair, just some soldering and housing and there u have it: a world class eq/comp up on par with neve or api

hit me up with a pm and i will it get it for cheap here in europe and send it over the pond (not trying to make any profit of it)

[KT1]

Originally Posted by okailla

I dont get tired to recommend these to people: get youself some vintage german broadcast modules like siemens, telefunken, emt, lawo, filtek bfe, neumann
can easily be obtained for 400 the pair, just some soldering and housing and there u have it: a world class eq/comp up on par with neve or api

hit me up with a pm and i will it get it for cheap here in europe and send it over the pond (not trying to make any profit of it)

What a generous offer! I love broadcast modules too! In fact the sound of the TG1 the remakes of the abbeyroad customs by chandler and serious and i love the compression and mojo in those boxes! In fact i think that particular box was made to replace the fairchilds in the studio..

[RonGherkins]

Originally Posted by superchibisan

spend that money ITB... the only good outboard processing that you can't get ITB is going to cost a LOT more than 600 bucks. (2k-10k)

Better to spend it on awesome plugs for the computer or save the money to buy something that is actually worth a damn

Disagree. For like 800-2000 there are a lot of valid gear options that aren't just stepping stones quality wise.

[jrides]

You do realize Tha $1200 is twice the OP budget?

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[JBlongz]

Originally Posted by jrides

This is very true. I assumed the OP had good converters. If not, don't bother.

90% of the audio is coming from plugins. Only external sources are my motif and vocals. I'm currently using a TC Konnekt 6 and Presonus audiobox USB. I plan to get an Apogee duet and Saffire 40 pro. Bt first I will consider UAD Apollo since its an interface that allows plugins to be applied before it hits the DAW. Using the tape machine plugins and some eq. May get the sound I want without loops physical i/o.

[RonGherkins]

Originally Posted by jrides

You do realize Tha $1200 is twice the OP budget?

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You realize it was a response to the quoted text and not for the op?

[bigdig]

Dude, get yourself a used Chameleon Labs 7802 for like 4-500 and spend the rest on beer.

[G. Kaye]

$300 seems a lot to spend on ART gear, isnt that the super low end stuff to buy if you only have like 50 bucks to spend?

I'm sure you cound find more quality elsewhere with 600 to spend. First identify exactly what you want though. Then choose the one you think is the warmest if thats the sound what your after.

If your looking for a vintage EQ/pre amp, Maybe try something like this - Vintage Ashly SC-44 Blue face Analog Keyboard Preamp Equalizer 1970's Verion | eBay

[KT1]

Ashleys are nice actually. I used an Ashley comp tracking some of my drums. Sounded good.

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[Teacher]

DIY Gyraff SSL....should be getting mine in a couple weeks can't wait