New sampler

[will_nellis]

I currently make mashups. Im pretty okay at it. But I'm looking to get more into dubstep/electronic music. Something I can make some money from. Just as an indie electronic artist though. So like James Blake or Avicii. Right now I use djay and a Vestax Spin to their fullest extent. I just got about $200 dollars to get a new mixer/samplers/etc. I was wondering what might be my best option. Not SPECIFICALLY a sampler or mixer, but anything that will get me on the right foor for making said type of music. As well as just general beat making like the bigs do.

Thanks you all.

I also write awesome raps, but I'm super white and I cannot rap

[godphaser]

You should save up more money or you can buy NI Massive.

[explorer]

Maybe get Ableton Live or Apple Logic?

[will_nellis]

Yeah, I didn't consider buying programs. Would I JUST buy Massive? Because I only have 200 dollars. I saw the Novation Launchpad which comes with the Abelton launch pad. Its like full Abelton but limited. Would that be better? Or should I get Massive. And I don't feel like pirating it.

[godphaser]

I said Massive cause it's the go-to synth for what seems to be most of dubstep producers.

But yeah, if you have no DAW, Ableton Live would be the perfect tool for you I guess.

There's Live Intro (I didn't test it) which costs a hundred bucks, you can dl a trial there:

Ableton - Introducing Live Intro

[will_nellis]

Originally Posted by godphaser

I said Massive cause it's the go-to synth for what seems to be most of dubstep producers.

But yeah, if you have no DAW, Ableton Live would be the perfect tool for you I guess.

There's Live Intro (I didn't test it) which costs a hundred bucks, you can dl a trial there:

Ableton - Introducing Live Intro

But I'm just trying to make beats and stuff. Just sort of hip hop/electronic.
So would I be able to do all of that with Abelton alone? No DAW?

[KevWest]

Sounds like you are just starting out with making music right? Save your money for right now. There are way too many free options out there for you to get started with.

#1 follow KevWestbeats.com I do posts on my blog for up start music producers that you may find interesting

#2 download reaper. Its a Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) its basically your pen and paper so to speak when you want to write music. There are lots of DAWs out there but Reaper is damn near free. You don't really have to pay for it but if you want a legit license its like $50. That is nothing compared to everything else out there and it is actually a very top notch program.

#3 Download some virtual instruments. No one tool is going to make the genre of music for which you want to create. Its more about the man than the tool.

#4 Hit youtube and watch some videos about how to create the music you want to create, techniques you will need to learn and getting more tips for the music you want to create. Don't limit it to just the music you create either as people from other genres can still teach you a lot. Example I follow BoyInABand on youtube. I don't make anything near the kind of music he does but I like him and he is very infromative.

Good luck

[Tnevz]

Reaper is great for the money doesn't come with hardly any sounds though. For $200 if you've got a Mac I'd get logic, it comes with tons of samples, synths, loops, and a good sampler. if not I'd get reaper or fl studio. The big version of fl is like $300 but it's free lifetime updates.
You'll want to get drum samples and some Synth plugins eventually.

I really think fl studio would be best for what you want to do.
Great sampling and drum programming capabilities.
I would make sure your computer can more than handle the required specs for any of the mentioned daw's first and foremost.

[will_nellis]

What about Komplete 8? Is it worth the $500? I've also been toying around with Massive and Abelton. They seem decent but not so much what I'm looking for. The perfect example of music I want to make is music like SBTKRT. I would make dubstep but obviously it is very complicated. Can make said music/dubstep in Logic or FL Studios?

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by Tnevz

Reaper is great for the money doesn't come with hardly any sounds though. For $200 if you've got a Mac I'd get logic, it comes with tons of samples, synths, loops, and a good sampler. if not I'd get reaper or fl studio. The big version of fl is like $300 but it's free lifetime updates.
You'll want to get drum samples and some Synth plugins eventually.

I really think fl studio would be best for what you want to do.
Great sampling and drum programming capabilities.
I would make sure your computer can more than handle the required specs for any of the mentioned daw's first and foremost.

Why buy a DAW based on the sounds it comes with? Especially one that is vst capable. Maybe its my mentality of remembering when DAWs did not come with sounds people wanted to use but I think using a DAW or not based on its included sounds when it can host vst is quite silly.

Originally Posted by will_nellis

What about Komplete 8? Is it worth the $500? I've also been toying around with Massive and Abelton. They seem decent but not so much what I'm looking for. The perfect example of music I want to make is music like SBTKRT. I would make dubstep but obviously it is very complicated. Can make said music/dubstep in Logic or FL Studios?

Komplete is worth it if you can afford it. It has everything you need. IMO its over kill but you will not want for anything new for a long time. Massive is also included in Komplete I think

[Tnevz]

Originally Posted by KevWest

Why buy a DAW based on the sounds it comes with? Especially one that is vst capable. Maybe its my mentality of remembering when DAWs did not come with sounds people wanted to use but I think using a DAW or not based on its included sounds when it can host vst is quite silly.

Komplete is worth it if you can afford it. It has everything you need. IMO its over kill but you will not want for anything new for a long time. Massive is also included in Komplete I think

Cuz dudes on a budget. Plus it's just plain economical financial and, generally speaking, CPU wise as well. Stock plugs don't use as much CPU, usually.

[Tnevz]

Massive is included in komplete although I'm not sure why it was mentioned before because it's a synth not a sampler.
I've got komplete 6 and I hardly use it tbh. Kontakt is the sampler and it's great but it's more of a learning curve than probably any other sampler.

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by Tnevz

Cuz dudes on a budget. Plus it's just plain economical financial and, generally speaking, CPU wise as well. Stock plugs don't use as much CPU, usually.

being on a budget is exactly why i said get reaper and freeware synths and fx. most of which are also very low on cpu. it doesnt make sense to spend $200 on a DAW when you don't have a lot of money to spend and can get a top notch DAW for free and get good freeware for every function you will need. Or even buying a $20 copy of computer music magazine which will usually come with everything you need to get started on the dvd that comes with it.

[Tnevz]

You saying reaper over fl studio?
That's basically what your saying right now...lol for hip hop?
Man I've got reaper and it's not bad but I can bang out a project in logic in half the time and with a lot less frustrations. Same for FL for a lots of folks.
Reaper maybe your preference, I suppose you could say the reason fl is so popular is because of the marketing. Nah, I don't think so.
FL studio is not my preference but for dubstep and hiphop he'd be better of with it than reaper. Tons of tutorials out there for FL at least twice as many as reaper, fl has much better midi editing and quantizing features, there's stock plugs in there that would cost you $2-300 alone, for chopping samples it's nearly one of the best programs around, plus the drum sequencer is great and it makes it gravy to stack drums and tweak em....

[godphaser]

Massive is included in komplete although I'm not sure why it was mentioned before because it's a synth not a sampler.

The OP doesn't really know what he's lookin for and he has only 200$.

[will_nellis]

I can get live if that's the question. I got some extra doe. But if I could just get fl studios and a midi controller (akai small keyboard) or I'm just nt sure.

[will_nellis]

exact sample of type of music I am trying to produce.

SBTRKT - Wildfire - YouTube

OR

SKRILLEX LIVE IN LAS VEGAS - CROWN ROOM! Dropping Unreleased: Equinox HD - YouTube

[Dayl]

Originally Posted by will_nellis

exact sample of type of music I am trying to produce.

SBTRKT - Wildfire - YouTube

OR

SKRILLEX LIVE IN LAS VEGAS - CROWN ROOM! Dropping Unreleased: Equinox HD - YouTube

You need to post here and be specific. Let them know that you are wanting to produce music like Skrillex (exactly).

Electronic Music Instruments & Electronic Music Production - Gearslutz.com

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by Tnevz

You saying reaper over fl studio?
That's basically what your saying right now...lol for hip hop?
Man I've got reaper and it's not bad but I can bang out a project in logic in half the time and with a lot less frustrations. Same for FL for a lots of folks.
Reaper maybe your preference, I suppose you could say the reason fl is so popular is because of the marketing. Nah, I don't think so.
FL studio is not my preference but for dubstep and hiphop he'd be better of with it than reaper. Tons of tutorials out there for FL at least twice as many as reaper, fl has much better midi editing and quantizing features, there's stock plugs in there that would cost you $2-300 alone, for chopping samples it's nearly one of the best programs around, plus the drum sequencer is great and it makes it gravy to stack drums and tweak em....

A tool is a tool there is no best DAW for hip hop its all pens and paper. But honestly I have always disliked Fruity Loops but in my decade of dealing with DAWs its always been very popular. Its not marketing its just people like it and that's fine. I have heard great music done in FL its just not my preference. I am saying Reaper almost mainly based on price and quality of the software. Its not like Reaper is a bad program by any stretch of the imagination. I used it almost exclusively at one point but I dislike how it handles rewire and since I am a Reason user I decided that something else may be better for me. I have used every DAW out there and to me FL studio just is not that great and works against how I think because it doesn't work like a regular DAW. I haven't used it since like version 4 or 5 because after trying versions 2-5 I decided it wasn't for me so no i would not recommend it. Plus he says hes on a tight budget. Reaper is great. There is also Cubase LE which again I would suggest over FL. Once you get over the initial learning curve its a great tool and free.

Originally Posted by will_nellis

I can get live if that's the question. I got some extra doe. But if I could just get fl studios and a midi controller (akai small keyboard) or I'm just nt sure.

If you want FL grab it. Live is a great DAW. One of my favorites if you can get past the stability issues (I hear a lot of those were fixed however I had live 5)