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Old 5th January 2012   #121
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ok, so they came up with... akai maschine?
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wHAT DO U MEAN? your answer makes me suspect it cant work standalone. Or it can and you were trying to joke in a slick and ironic way?
Yeah works standalone.
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ok, so they came up with... akai maschine?
Fair game as NI released the Native Instrument's MPC.....
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Exactly my thoughts.We'll see what it will be.
But then you have guys on the opposite side indicating they need more memory, faster loading time, better integration with software, etc, etc.
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Some pics:





What "scares" me is that Akai hasn't been able to put out decent OS for the last MPCs so how will they manage a much more complicated software?

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I just need to know how much?? Better not be over $1,500 its a damn recession out there! Wouldn't be surprised if it's $2k+ I damn sure won't be buying it lol honestly for me to consider picking it up it would have to be $1K or less that's why I love maschine so damn much!
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its definetely a maschine killer! trying to figure out if you can do the same thing with an mpc 2500 and a soundcard?
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its definetely a maschine killer!
Please, tell me you're not serious.
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Machine will never have the workflow of the MPC
Now we got a MPC that you can use VSTs with.
This is the Maschine killer bro.




That I don't know.
Midi-- Do you work for akai or on the deveopment? Do you actually have one.
Those are some serious words you wrote. You have to be familiar with both units to say what you have said. Either which way, I will check it out. Already got machine so It's got to blow it out the water for me to grab it. Akai should have created/ released it earlier. Lots of machine users, including me, who wanted a hardware/computer based mpc and native instruments have done a very good job imho. Updates have been great, and free, so I think they are listening to their customers. I will be watching.
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I think all this means is more innovation for both NI and Akai. Clearly NI is going to respond, and they have been in the software/hardware combo market longer
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If this cannot function as an independent standalone hardware box, then AKAI have missed the boat and just killed the MPC.

The main advantage of an MPC is to avoid using a computer on stage. If I have to take a computer, may as well us a good DAW instead of farting around with another toy.

sad day.

Any confirmation on this?? I hope its a full blown MPC with added software functionality!
I mean it has 2 midi ins and 4 outs..
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Please, tell me you're not serious.
Just by looking at it and it being from akai makes it a maschine killer ! Akai knows or listens to the hiphop community more.NI is electronic music first. I'm sure its better than maschine.

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Just by looking at it and it being from akai makes it a maschine killer !
Oh ok, I see, look and brand >>> specs, right, lol.

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Akai knows or listens to the hiphop community more.NI is electronic music first.
Lol whut?

Like you think Akai makes meetings with Preemo, Dre, RZA and Kanye while NI is with Apparat, Justice and Skrillex?

Dude, come on, let's be serious for a moment.

Akai's experience in software is almost zero, they just did some plug-ins back in the days and it was not that great.

And please, don't tell me a firmware is the same thing cause it's not.

Then, look at what they did with their recent MPCs. Then, for more fun, look at how the MPK49 is buggy. And it's a very basic controller.

So maybe Akai hired a super team of engineers and the product is so awesome that it will transform everyone's lil bros in super dope Dr Dre's, smashing Maschines and MPC 3000s with their asses but for the moment, we don't know.

So, saying it's a Maschine killer? => ROFL
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Yeah works standalone.
Sure doesn't look like it from the pictures.


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Looks like there's an MPC Slimline too, that takes up less space=
Where do you see that?
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Fair game as NI released the Native Instrument's MPC.....
idk if its fair or not.
its akai, its the mpc... they should've come up with something groundbreaking.
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I can't believe all the whinin' and cryin'!! Shut up and wait for actual feedback before praising or dooming it!

For those that wanted the feature set, this is a great thing. If not, keep using whatever your substitute is and make music.

This forum's been reduced to a bunch of little girls argueing about the newest version of Polly Wets-Her-Pants....
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I can't believe all the whinin' and cryin'!! Shut up and wait for actual feedback before praising or dooming it!

For those that wanted the feature set, this is a great thing. If not, keep using whatever your substitute is and make music.

This forum's been reduced to a bunch of little girls argueing about the newest version of Polly Wets-Her-Pants....
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I can't believe all the whinin' and cryin'!! Shut up and wait for actual feedback before praising or dooming it!

For those that wanted the feature set, this is a great thing. If not, keep using whatever your substitute is and make music.

This forum's been reduced to a bunch of little girls argueing about the newest version of Polly Wets-Her-Pants....
you are aware of the fact that you just joined?
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Any confirmation on this?? I hope its a full blown MPC with added software functionality!
I mean it has 2 midi ins and 4 outs..
EH..... Doubt it's a 'full blown' MPC........It's a 'controller' (a la Maschine). I'll buy it cuz it says "MPC" but I'm not expecting much more than what my 'retro MPCS' can and will continue to do.
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They should have made it run off an iPad rather than a PC.
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There will be.

They'll present MPC Studio and MPC Fly soon.

One will be a "slim" controller and the other an app for iPad 2.
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3000+60 emulation
hardware mpc guys don't like emulation.

battery has mpc emulation it and it is frowned upon in the mpc community.
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Oh ok, I see, look and brand >>> specs, right, lol.



Lol whut?

Like you think Akai makes meetings with Preemo, Dre, RZA and Kanye while NI is with Apparat, Justice and Skrillex?

Dude, come on, let's be serious for a moment.

Akai's experience in software is almost zero, they just did some plug-ins back in the days and it was not that great.

And please, don't tell me a firmware is the same thing cause it's not.

Then, look at what they did with their recent MPCs. Then, for more fun, look at how the MPK49 is buggy. And it's a very basic controller.

So maybe Akai hired a super team of engineers and the product is so awesome that it will transform everyone's lil bros in super dope Dr Dre's, smashing Maschines and MPC 3000s with their asses but for the moment, we don't know.

So, saying it's a Maschine killer? => ROFL
Come on now of course we don't really know how good it is but I don't think its gonna be that hard to beat maschine(worst sequencer ever). Akai may have made some buggy products but look at the products they have made that are classic and forever embedded in music history. This coming from an asr-x dude who doesn't even own an akai product! Akai's track record speaks for itself. Yes akai plugins sucked backed in the day but thats not their thing. They know sequencers and hopefully the have based the software on that. NI gui are always terrible but I love the sounds in kontakt so I deal with it.
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NI had a survey last year asking what would you like in a keyboard controller. weighted or semi weighted keys. Touch screen etc... So with this mpc out, what do you think if they put out a keyboard type maschine controller? Or do you think they should focus on a new hardware controller to rival the new mpc? Curious....
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This thing looks amazing but I think its standalone as well. Lets see if that mpc slim is just a controller which would be amazing. Im expecting this to be priced around 1k and the slim if it is just a controller to be at 400 map. Cant wait for the slim next week !
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Not hard to beat Maschine?

Do you realize how much development there has been?

NI has a HUGE experience in softwares, Akai has none and their recent controllers don't make me think they totally master the hardware side either.

And because they "know" about hardware sequencers doesn't mean they know something about doing a sort of a small DAW.

Maschine is rock stable and can deal with all my plugs except Melodyne, how better can it be?

It can, of course, but Akai would have to provide some sort of a better DAW for their controller and rock stability.

But what is their experience in this field? ZERO

And look, without JJOS, their recent MPC line would have been screwed.

But to me, the worst part is the built in interface.

Come on Akai, do you think I'll replace a rock stable super latency timing RME with whatever you come up with?

And this comes from a real fan of the old MPCs but I'm not convinced by this whole nukai ish.
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The real questions for me.
Is the software 64 bit?
And if so, is there a 32 bit bridge?
How many outputs does the software have?
What is the PPQ for the sequencer?
Drag and drop midi and audio track out? Resampling?
Swing percentages, and Quantize strength percentages?
Can you bypass the outputs and still use the emulation?
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In the video, their using some type of USB split wire. Thats weird?
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