Originally Posted by blastbeat
Maschine has a "tabbed interface" on the hardware LCD. The way you page through parameters on the Maschine hardware is super quick and has a hardware workflow vibe. What we've seen of the MPC Ren doesn't seem any quicker at all and in fact, looks to have less of a standalone hardware vibe and more of a controller vibe because you're forced to constantly look back and forth from the knobs and the screen to know what you're controlling unlike with maschine where the knobs and buttons are directly above and below the labels of the parameters your controlling.
Maschine does not have tabs for Voice Settings, Pitch/Gate, Fx/Filter, Modulation, LFO, and Velocity Destination. These programming functions are spread out through 6 pages that you must use a cursor to toggle through them or use a drop-down box in the software to select them.
The MPC Ren displays all of these programming parameters on one screen. The parameters are controlled via touch sensitive qlinks. And just like most MPCs, there are 6 tabs (F keys) to access logically laid out parameters. The MPC Ren's Program Edit screen is far superior to what I see in Maschine.
Originally Posted by blastbeat
Wrong. You can use just the hardware for sequence editing in Maschine. The Step mode let's you see and navigate to and edit all the notes in all grid settings, as well as select certain notes or ranges of events, just from the hardware thanks to the way all the steps are reflected in the backlit pads with visual feedback that works in conjunction with Maschine's hardware LCD.
That is not what I am talking about and you know this. I am talking about an editor that lets you modify every detail of a recorded notes from the controller such as being able to change the length of a note from the controller. All MPCs can do this...Maschine can't. This is a top Maschine feature request.
So you and E-Maddox are taking turns posting this photoshopped pic across all the internet forums multiple times? lol I am not sure why I have to pretend to be anything. The pic you keep posting indicates I was an MPC 5000 tester. So if I am a tester, why do I need to pretend?
Originally Posted by sopre
Why did you buy maschine in the first place if your riding akai's coatail? I don't even think you make music. Did you know NI is second in interface sales behind avid. This is from the 10 anniversary party. I come from an MPC background. I'm looking forward to the newer version maschine....
I don't make music. I just buy expensive and not so expensive toys just to talk about them in an internet forum. But me making music has nothing to do with this subject. The number of interfaces NI sells has nothing do with Maschine's capabilities or lack of them.
I am also looking for a newer version of Maschine...better controller and improved software. I will certainly buy a new version of Maschine. If it is better than the MPC Ren, I will be in multiple forums giving details why I feel this way. Either way..you won't see me in an internet forum catching feelings because of what someone said about a drum maschine. lol
Originally Posted by E-Maddox
To Blastbeat's point, Anytime even the slightest bit of criticism or disagreement comes about Jahrome makes it a point to insert a personal attack or try to deflect and degrade the discussion into a "MPC vs Everything Else" discussion. The guy has made it his business to try to quash any criticism comes Akai's way as if they don't have storied past and nobody remebers how they have handled their customers.
We were talking about the LCD and waveform data? What difference does it make what someone owns uses or? I have an MV and a XL. Other have Maschine or some other vehicle. A valid point is a valid point.
The Ren isn't finished so this is time for real debate-not bitching about it after it's built. If anyone is going to jump when Jahrome actions and sales pitch are addressed they also chime in when he poisons the well with propaganda and misinformation on other devices. Connected or no- he's marketing on behalf of Akai pure and simple.
You lose any remaining credibility with every lie. I have never personally attacked anyone because they have a different opinion than me. But anyone can do a search and find numerous posts with you calling me names or throwing insults. Shame on you.
Yes, we were talking about LCD and graphic waveforms. All my points are valid IMHO. I don't need a 6 x 2 inch LCD to show an even smaller waveform when I have a full sized colored monitor. I mentioned the MV-8800 to give an example as how most users add an external monitor to it completely ignoring its LCD. You claim that you need this function on an LCD. That's all well and good. But its not part of the MPCs Ren's spec. So keep using what you are using as you are not forced to buy it.
The Ren isn't finished as you say....so how can you bitch about what it has or doesn't have? If I posted mis-information about a product, please provide evidence to that "fact." I will certainly admit if I made a mistake. As far as marketing for Akai? Outside of an MPC 2000XL and an MPD32, I don't currently own any Akai products. I am not telling anyone they should buy an MPC Ren as I don't care. But I will tell you I am buying an MPC Ren...two of them to be exact.
You are in the wrong thread if you don't want to hear the positive aspects of the MPC Ren.
Originally Posted by new bee
....do not buy or pre order the RENASSANCE.....wait til its out....akai pro have a track record of buggy software..cheap components which break......wait and see is my advice to you
There is not another sampling drum machine on the market that has a better OS, better built, or better anything than the MPC series IMHO. If there was, I would own it...as I am a gear collector as sopre put it. lol