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Old 30th December 2011   #1
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Thoughts on Presonus Studio One V2

I mix in Pro Tools but for everything else it seems like Studio One V2 is it. I have dropped Logic. I'm still finding my way around Studio One v2 but I am thoroughly impressed so far. Drag and drop is so fast. Creating sends/returns is automatic with just one drag and drop. Highlight 6 drums tracks and click "create buss" and it's there in an instant and on the fly without music stopping and everything is routed automatically.

Impact is great. Just drag it to create instrument track, click on kit and you are ready to go. All the editing/fx, output assignments, mono/stereo are there on that one page. All outputs have full mixer channels created for them automatically. Record all drums midi info on one midi channel, double click on midi info and separate lane windows for each sound pops up for full midi editing. When done just click "explode midi" then "bounce" and now all drum tracks are on their own audio tracks AND the midi tracks are still there but silent. So you can go back and change things if needed. You can hide midi tracks with a click. The sound is excellent and the filters and editing on each pad can get you any sound you want. You can use loops on the pads too.

The Melodyne integration is nice. Just click on the vocal track and the Melodyne window pops up and you do your thing. That quick. No other steps. Track is fixed. Vocalign integration this tight would be nice too.

So far I have only had to check the manual one time and that was for the "explode midi" function. I have done a few things but no full mix. Gonna get into finding and fixing tempo of samples next. Will check youtube to see if there are videos.
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Love it. Best thing since sliced bread
Here's a dope series on Studio One 2 and Melodyne integration
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I mix in Pro Tools but for everything else it seems like Studio One V2 is it. I have dropped Logic. I'm still finding my way around Studio One v2 but I am thoroughly impressed so far. Drag and drop is so fast. Creating sends/returns is automatic with just one drag and drop. Highlight 6 drums tracks and click "create buss" and it's there in an instant and on the fly without music stopping and everything is routed automatically.

Impact is great. Just drag it to create instrument track, click on kit and you are ready to go. All the editing/fx, output assignments, mono/stereo are there on that one page. All outputs have full mixer channels created for them automatically. Record all drums midi info on one midi channel, double click on midi info and separate lane windows for each sound pops up for full midi editing. When done just click "explode midi" then "bounce" and now all drum tracks are on their own audio tracks AND the midi tracks are still there but silent. So you can go back and change things if needed. You can hide midi tracks with a click. The sound is excellent and the filters and editing on each pad can get you any sound you want. You can use loops on the pads too.

The Melodyne integration is nice. Just click on the vocal track and the Melodyne window pops up and you do your thing. That quick. No other steps. Track is fixed. Vocalign integration this tight would be nice too.

So far I have only had to check the manual one time and that was for the "explode midi" function. I have done a few things but no full mix. Gonna get into finding and fixing tempo of samples next. Will check youtube to see if there are videos.
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I'm a new convert too.

I have been using Logic up to now but Studio One is just too brilliant to leave alone. It so Logic like, so not difficult to get the hang of, but it is far more logical than Logic.

I have only been using it for 2 days and so far I am very happy with it.

I don't doubt for a minute that Presonus have decided to go after Logic users with this DAW, and I think it will work. I have seen comments like the OP's everywhere on the net since v2 was released.

This DAW is better than Logic 9 in just about every way, for me at least anyway.
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Yup, brilliant DAW imo. Got me away from Cubase the first time I used it. Ideas can be laid down quickly and thats important to me.
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I may have found one issue. There doesn't seem to be a way to have zero latency monitoring while recording vocals/live instruments unless you have a Presonus Interface. I even checked the forum and that's what I found.

Someone tell me I have missed something. I have it set up on a system w/ an RME interface and getting crazy latency when recording.
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I have it set up on a system w/ an RME interface and getting crazy latency when recording.
Hmm, I'm running an RME 9653 AI and haven't had this issue at all?? I get latency when introducing certain VST into the mix but S1 compensates for this very well? Most of the time I'm running in zero latency.

what sort of numbers are we talking? Am I missing something?
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Hmm, I'm running an RME 9653 AI and haven't had this issue at all?? I get latency when introducing certain VST into the mix but S1 compensates for this very well? Most of the time I'm running in zero latency.

what sort of numbers are we talking? Am I missing something?
I did miss something. Direct Monitoring in Totalmix was unchecked. That did the fix. It's a great program again.
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I may have found one issue. There doesn't seem to be a way to have zero latency monitoring while recording vocals/live instruments unless you have a Presonus Interface. I even checked the forum and that's what I found.

Someone tell me I have missed something. I have it set up on a system w/ an RME interface and getting crazy latency when recording.
That's not an issue G - Make sure your ticked in the TOTAL MIX AND check you have no strange routing. we were using an FF800 so for sure 100% tracked drums no issues.
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I did miss something. Direct Monitoring in Totalmix was unchecked. That did the fix. It's a great program again.
Oh saw this after - my mob was being a little lazy. Good yuh exactly! BTW i have the drum audio from the session and it's sounding exactly as i would have liked. I am very happy - for tracking i used to use LOGIC..
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I've also just switched over to Studio One, and I'm really enjoying my time with it so far.

However, I have one issue / query - if I use Render FX (apply inserts to a particular region / event) and then edit the region length / fades, and then hit restore - it restores the original length. This is a bit of a pain tbh - one of the main reasons I swapped over from Logic (aside from the lack of bloat) was to use the inserts on particular objects - that way I could have an EQ on every single audio region, rather than one per track (a big deal for my work flow - I used to end up hundreds of audio tracks using Logic, each with one or 2 sounds on them...).

Does anyone know a way around this? Seems like an odd omission - of course, there's a pretty good chance that it's user error (hoping so at least).

Aside from that: really enjoying it. I was going to hang on til Samplitude hit Mac OS, but I'm really enjoying the streamlined interface / lack of clutter.
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just a quick qustion about studio one V2. Im not at home at the moment so unable to try it out so im curious to know. Say i have addictive drums open on an instrument track and im triggering it with pads or a keyboard, is it possible to let it record on a loop and record my kick drum, then let it keep looping then record my snare over it, then hats etc...and have them all on the same midi track.
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just a quick qustion about studio one V2. Im not at home at the moment so unable to try it out so im curious to know. Say i have addictive drums open on an instrument track and im triggering it with pads or a keyboard, is it possible to let it record on a loop and record my kick drum, then let it keep looping then record my snare over it, then hats etc...and have them all on the same midi track.
Yes this is possible.
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Would this daw make you leave protools?

Protools 9/10 is out of my budget like forever. And a new Mac is out of the question.

So I'm looking for diehard converts.
Die hard convert here. Trakz, switch. The app is solid.
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just a quick qustion about studio one V2. Im not at home at the moment so unable to try it out so im curious to know. Say i have addictive drums open on an instrument track and im triggering it with pads or a keyboard, is it possible to let it record on a loop and record my kick drum, then let it keep looping then record my snare over it, then hats etc...and have them all on the same midi track.
If u open the record panel u can set up overdub recording to run that way
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Anyone looping up samples in Studio One v2 quickly? I'm moving real slow. Finding the initial tempo of the sample is an issue for me. Any beat identify function?

This is what I do in Pro Tools for cutting a 4bar loop out of an old song:

1. Tab to transient to get downbeat on 1\1 > Command E to separate and clear excess > Drag downbeat to zero on grid. Do the same for end at 5|1.

2. Command I and put in 1|1 - 5|1 and it gives me the tempo of sample

3. Elastic audio and change tempo to what I want > then quantize.

4. All done (after x-form render)

This is a really fast process. Anyone have the steps for Studio One?
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Anyone have the steps for Studio One?
I'm pretty sure that "Edit With Melodyne" will detect the tempo of the clip in one step.
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I own Cubase 5, Reaper 4 and PT 9 - I like them all for different things. Studio One v2 combines the best of them and adds even more functionality (Melodyne ARA!!!). Crossgraded Cubase to S1 after 7 days of demoing, this piece of software is absolutely brilliant!
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When I updated my Melodyne I saw the video's and the marriage between the two programs, I was in ohhh mode.



10 Things about Studio One.


Presonus V2 with Melodyne with ARA






Using Melodyne with Studio One 2
Using Melodyne with Studio One 2 - YouTube

Transforming audio with Studio One 2 - YouTube Transforming audio with Studio One 2

1st DAW with Melodyne Pitch Editing: Hi, PreSonus Studio One v2, You’ve Got Our Attention


Sonar X1 Producer had many of these features for some time now but ARA is only exclusive to Presonus V2 (the first to utilize this feature) for now.
If Sonar x1 don't implement this when it becomes available......I dare not say what the next move might be... Lol. (use both..Lol)

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I have moved on. I only use Logic 9 for production, and Studio One V2 for everything else. But I am about to use Studio One for production also. I have not dove into Impact too much, because I have Maschine. Is it more like Kong of can you Slice in it also like Maschine?
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Anyone looping up samples in Studio One v2 quickly? I'm moving real slow. Finding the initial tempo of the sample is an issue for me. Any beat identify function?
This is a really fast process. Anyone have the steps for Studio One?
This is how I do it.

Drag drop sample into project

Double click sample so it opens in its own window an zoom a little

Roll mouse over bpm and adjust until snare and kick lines up with bars and beats.

Bounce down stem

change bpm back.

There's probably a quicker way but this is fast for me and it gives me the chance to run through the loop at the same time.
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TOTAL MIX - In Total Mix where is the check box for Direct Monitoring?
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TOTAL MIX - In Total Mix where is the check box for Direct Monitoring?
Open up the DSP mixer, go to options and select ASIO direct monitoring
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This is how I do it.

Drag drop sample into project

Double click sample so it opens in its own window an zoom a little

Roll mouse over bpm and adjust until snare and kick lines up with bars and beats.

Bounce down stem

change bpm back.

There's probably a quicker way but this is fast for me and it gives me the chance to run through the loop at the same time.
So far I'm just going back to Pro Tools for preparing samples. My 3 steps in PT are fast and accurate. I'm sure there is a fast way in Studio One that will reveal itself soon. Surprised I have not found any videos on youtube for that. The one's I have seen are about the pre-timed loops that come with it.
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When I updated my Melodyne I saw the video's and the marriage between the two programs, I was in ohhh mode.
Haha... I actually produced that one vid in your linked vids there... "10 Things About Studio One" as kind a semi-joke. Here I was with this pretty nice kinda fresh new application that I really liked and (as expected) suddenly the hordes started screaming for everything from all the products that they already used. All the things from every DAW under the sun, like... yesterday.

"Make it do this exactly like Cubase and I'll buy it tomorrow." or "How could they leave out Session View! Jeez.... that's basic stuff!"

So the video was as much of a "Relax and enjoy the ride and stop trying to turn it into CubaSonaLiveTools..." as it was just pointing out some basic stuff that may have slipped under the radar.

The only point was to try to remind people that it's actually not supposed to be like CubaSonaLiveTools... we already have those, so why make another? Anyway, old version in that vid. 1.5 or something.
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best new daw since ableton


cos the style of studio one uis more in the typical format its very quick to get into like ableton felt kinda alien to me. but its real simple once u get into it.

but i like the fact that studio one functions as an audio editor/mastering app and production and recording app.


also i know peeps say that different apps dont have they own sound and that the quality of sound comes 100% from the audio interface but check the following from Teddy Riley :

Riley has journeyed far from the Harlem projects where he got his start, he has searched long and hard for his ideal DAW. Once upon a time, Riley was a big fan of CLab’s Notator for the Atari computer, an ancestor of today’s Apple Logic. But he won’t use Logic today; he doesn’t like the feel and complexity. He used Steinberg Cubase, left it, and then tried it again but, he says, he kept feeling that “I’m stuck, this is just not it, and I can’t do what I want to do fast enough and quick enough.” He has used Avid Pro Tools, too, but he doesn’t like the workflow or the sound. (We’ll get back to that.) So he kept looking.

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Mingo’s DAW of choice? PreSonus Studio One Pro, of course! “Studio One just sounds great,” he enthuses. “For some reason It has a cleaner sound, in my opinion, than the other DAWs I have. I can’t tell you why but it just does. I was having a problem with a nameless DAW [Morris hints that the initials of the name are "PT"], and I decided to export the WAV files into Studio One. After I picked my jaw up off the floor at the sonic difference, I knew then that something special was going on inside this software.

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No disrespect jpeg. It's a great program but don't give us the prepared, paid, sales pitch from Teddy Riley and whoever. That cheapens the thread to me and has no bearing on anything. Happy New Year!

I find the "update" real nice as I did my CD compilation and burning in Samplitude

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Lawrence -
The only point was to try to remind people that it's actually not supposed to be like CubaSonaLiveTools... we already have those, so why make another? Anyway, old version in that vid. 1.5 or something.]

Wow Bro Lawrence.nice job, great video.
I agree with you, it's not CubSonar although it's has now implemented many similar features.
That's why I would import into V2 if the features are worth it.
Presonus V2, and Melodyne marriage of the two programs that mostly interest me.
Whit that being said, this ''ARA'' also may be implemented in ''Sonar x1 producer'' soon.....to be continued.

Thanks again for that video, I only post the best...Lol.
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