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Old 25th April 2006   #1
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Massey Tape-Head Saturation plug-in for Pro Tools

Has anyone tryed this plug-in?

Massey Tape-Head Saturation plug-in
http://www.smassey.com/plugins.html

If so how does it compare to Mcdsp's Analog Channel or Crane Song's Phoenix?
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Old 25th April 2006   #2
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Different... I have have AC and Phoenix, and this Massey one breaks up in a useful way that's different from those.

For the price, no-brainer.
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i havent tried any of the others, but i can hear a big difference in my tracks since i purchased the plug. i'd never experimented with harmonic distortion or tape saturation before, but now i'm hooked. it can really put your sounds right in your face!
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I like it, but I wish there was another setting beside the hi boost. It boosts too high of a frequency. Without the boost, the plug tends to darken things too much. Anyone else notice this?
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I noticed it!

Do you think the Analog Channel or Phoenix is better, compared to this plug?
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Old 27th April 2006   #6
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They all do different things...

Phoenix has a subtle sumptiousness, AC has some darkish gluish stuff.

Neither get the edge that the Massey thing does. It is a little bright, but I kind of like to blend it in with the original signal, and that way you can dial in the "edge" from it.

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the massey now has a medium setting!
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you guys using this on individual tracks or the master fader?
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Never on the master fader- track and bus only.

AC sometimes get used on the master.
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massey plugs are really cool, I've use the tape, compressor and mastering limter, I mean the plug are really usefull and for the price, c'mon..I got I BIG BANG for my buck.

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ok, i got a dumb question??is the mastering limitier just for mastering?
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Has anyone tryed this plug-in?
I find it very useful on snare or even the drum bus.
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ok, i got a dumb question??is the mastering limitier just for mastering?
No, it is not.
A limiter is simply a compressor with a hard ratio.
There are lots of uses for limiters other than mastering.
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<< the massey now has a medium setting! >>

Really, I don't see any mention of that on their site.

Love the plug-in, btw!
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I dig the massey Tape Head and the Limiter immensly!! I dont use the TapeHead on masters either. Guitars, snare, kicks, and other sourse that need some extra girth and forwardsness in the Mix.

Good Stuff!!

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Still curious about the updated Tape Head with a 'medium', setting? Is this true?? Didn't see mention on their site.
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It's true, for the owners of the plug.
There's a user's page for they who purchase Massey plugs
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Thanks, man. I am a registered user and I actually put that in as a feature request.
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Just downloaded the new version and loving it-- thanks for the heads up.
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We need an AU version of this plug!
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you need to come back to PT!
Use the force, Ton

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you need to come back to PT!
Use the force, Ton

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Funny you say that, because I have been using PT for tracking vocals lately. But, I can't mix without ADC...
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yeah the lack of ADC in PTLE really gets on my nerves too. I'd switch to something else but of all the DAWs ive tried I still like PT the best
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adc? delay compensation??????
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adc? delay compensation??????
Yes, automatic.


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Manual Delay Compensation

What I've been doing with PTLE and the UAD-1 card is creating busses named "0 plugins" "1 plugin" "2 plugins" etc. and routing the audio to the appropriate bus depending on how many plugs I use. Is there a better way to do manual delay compensation than that?

And this just confirms my feeling that PT LE is intentional crippleware. They know how to do this delay compensation very well. They have #ifdefs in the code to prevent it from happening in LE.




(Update two years later...boy have I learned a lot about this issue! )
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And this just confirms my feeling that PT LE is intentional crippleware. They know how to do this delay compensation very well. They have #ifdefs in the code to prevent it from happening in LE.
Care to elaborate for the sake of an interetsing discussion?
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Does the tapehead plugin work as AS too? Or just RTAS?
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Mixing ITB solves the adc issue. That's what I do with PT.
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Just wanted to revive this thread by saying that I have been using Massy Tape Head a lot lately for all kinds of uses. One thing I like to do is drive it hard and use it for a distortion on delays etc. It seems to work better for this type of thing than using an actual distortion plug-in. Also, the other day I tracked a beat for my friend that he had made in Reason. I always track Reason and VI's thru my outboard pre's and outboard gear to fatten things up and add some eq and compression etc. Now even though I did some comp and eq to the kick during tracking, the kick was still pretty wimpy sounding. I even tried Waves Rbass which a lot times helps for these kinds of situations with kicks and bass sounds and no matter what I did it just wasn't sounding good. I was about to suggest we replace the kick when I slapped on Tape Head and drove it pretty hard and Boom! it sounded waaaay better. It actually sounded really good and changed the sound quite a bit. It was refreshing to use a plug-in that actually had some good mojo to it. A lot of times when I use plugs (which I do on every mix) they tend to do there job but never really have any "vibe" if you will. Anyways sorry for the long rant but just wanted to put it out there that I think its a great plug and is hella cheap (as with all of Massey plug-ins). Anybody got any other plug-ins that they use that they have had a similiar experiences with?

PS if you guys want me to post a clip of before and after I will.
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