Originally Posted by Checkmate Muzik
Do you just ask about these synths (9-10th post), buy them or do anything with the advice you get here?
i asked about 2 synths and i went and bought both of them. hopefully you not wasting these peoples time.
Well good for you, you bought two synths on OP's advice but who cares? Who deemed you the thought police
concerning what one can or cannot ask others concerning synth advice on a user forum? You should spend more time making music with the two synths you bought rather than cyber stalk the postings of other users on this site..it makes you look like a creepy lurker....
Anyway, stupidity aside, I was digging into the manual of this rack XT here ftp://ftp.roland.co.uk/productsuppor...YNTH_XT_OM.pdf
and it briefly mentions on page 56 the following: [I]"The V-Synth XT allows up to 16-part multitimbral operation, and can
be played multitimbrally by performance data sent from an external
device. You can use the V-Synth XT to play the sounds of a song you
created on your sequencer, or as part of an ensemble. From the MIDI
keyboard you can play only the patch that is assigned to part 1. The
PATCH Information window shows you the patch that is assigned
to each part (p. 147).
A sound module that allows you to control multiple sounds
independently in this way is called a
multitimbral sound module"
The only other mention of it is on page 199 where Roland gives a general MIDI terminology based explanation of the Multitimbral capabilities of the XT:
B]"When used as a sound module, the V-Synth XT can receive on up to
sixteen MIDI channels. Sound modules like the V-Synth XT which
can receive multiple MIDI channels simultaneously to play different
sounds on each channel are called
multi-timbral sound modules."
Furthermore, the manual nowhere else goes in depth on how to set it up for 16 parts. I guess that is supposed to be self explanatory?
It mentions "as part of an ensemble"
OK, how does one go about setting up an "Ensemble"?
The fact that the manual implies quite clearly that I have
to use my sequencer simply to hear two or three patches simultaneously and then refers to an "Ensemble" is hazy at best . The whole use of obfuscated terminology on the part of Roland (being that the term "Ensemble" shows up elsewhere in reference to different things in the manual) seems a little bit more egregious than a mere oversight on the part of Roland R&D considering their claims in the product literature that the V-synths is in fact, multitimbral.
How about saying the V-synth is Multi-timbral BUT with some caveats?
This kind of low level implementation really is a serious misreprepresentation of the concept in Muti-timrality in reference to modern synthsizers being I have never seen one that did not allow you to stack multi-timbral parts, and assign them to one midi channel or split them in several configurations, EVER. ALL, Even my lowly Alesis Micron allows this, even Rolands older XV, JV and JD series modules, allowed you to stack parts to the same midi channel. This is a serious misgiving that really detracts the overall usability of the V-synth as a serious sound design tool and IMHO poor implementation( probably due to cost cutting needed to get the product out the door at the time of manufacture) of the concept of Multi-timbrality. Pretty sad coming from a company with the legacy of Roland, and especially so with a synth that claims to be a sonic mangler of a sound design that the V-Synth claims to be.
Now, an Access Virus TI will allow you to set the Midi Channel of each multi to the same so you can stack 16 sounds (or anycombination therof) to myriad midi channels for multilayered sonic landscapes that are pretty awe inspiring if you ask me ( I love my Virus TI rack unit) . I'd be all on board with the V-synth, if it allowed this, but the lack therof? Well, its the deal breaker for me, I think.
I would hope that Roland, with their 'flagship synth' should be able to easily do the same but in its manual above, but it seems they have a habit of putting out teasers, never implementing a promised addition to a product at the time of manufacture, then dropping it dead in the water. Look at the MV 8800 and all their groove boxes..gone by the wayside. Its a shame.
So What gives? How have those of you that own this unit implemented its very limited Multitimbral features and if you found a workaroundto them, I'd love to hear what yours were?