Battery / Protools question

[Dopamine]

I am running Battery 2 as RTAS in PT (TDM 6.4 on a Mix system).

Is there a way to assign various drum sounds to individual tracks (that is without opening multiple instances of Battery). That would be a much faster workflow than recording them all to audio.

[tekn0]

I used to have this same issue. Pro Tools 6.4 Does Not support "Multiple Instrument Outputs", and which sux even more is that the version that does is 6.7, Which does not support MiX TDM hardware. I fought with this one for a long time and then finally traded in all my hardware in a digidesign exchange program and got an HD Core card and now all thoes Multi Out features i wanted are there in PT7.

Hope this helps

[Dopamine]

Damn, I was hoping I was just overlooking something. thanks for the heads up.

[Djzon]

Just get nuendo and invest in a Pc

[Dopamine]

It's not worth switching DAWs. I happen to LOVE Protools!

And I would rather shoot myself than be subjected to using a PC.

But that is just MY OPINION.

Please don't turn this into a platform war.

[Tempest19]

Why dont you just program your whole track and then solo each piece of the kit and record them to individual audio tracks.

That is one thing that Reason has rewired into PT, you can route all of the kit pieces individually to Reasons outputs and open up a seperate aux track for each.

But I mean you're gonna bounce the audio down eventually for mixing so I wouldnt say it matters very much.

[Tempest19]

Originally Posted by Dopamine

It's not worth switching DAWs. I happen to LOVE Protools!

And I would rather shoot myself than be subjected to using a PC.

But that is just MY OPINION.

Please don't turn this into a platform war.

I'll agree PT is the best DAW I've ever used and I'm on PC!!

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Dopamine

And I would rather shoot myself than be subjected to using a PC.

I would probably rather shoot myself than use PT for making beats... I also wouldn't use a PC, though.

[Tempest19]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

I would probably rather shoot myself than use PT for making beats... I also wouldn't use a PC, though.

Why is that?

Lol, whats with all the Mac people??

Even though you can get a Windows look a likey desktop for Mac I still dont like it for some reason. I mean you can buy a bunch of ram cheaper for PC and the G5's dont run all that fast in my experience.

I built my PC for much cheaper than a Mac would cost and I havent had a single problem with it running PT or anything for that matter

You all know OSX was probably written on a PC

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Tempest19

Why is that?

Lol, whats with all the Mac people??

Even though you can get a Windows look a likey desktop for Mac I still dont like it for some reason. I mean you can buy a bunch of ram cheaper for PC and the G5's dont run all that fast in my experience.

I built my PC for much cheaper than a Mac would cost and I havent had a single problem with it running PT or anything for that matter

You all know OSX was probably written on a PC

Have you ever used a Mac for making music?.....

[Tempest19]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Have you ever used a Mac for making music?.....

Yup nearly every day with Logic 7

I dont see what the fuss is about?

[tekn0]

To each their own ya know
But i make all my beats in Pro Tools on a PC

[tone4407]

Word, I use a PC and compose in PT, but too each their own.

But on the topic of Battery in PT, I have one Aux set up with Battery. Then I bus my MIDI tracks to that Aux. So for instance, I Have the Kick MIDI track bussed to it, a snare MIDI track bussed, and a hi-hat MIDI track bussed all to that single Aux track. So I'm only using that one Aux track for Battery. Once the MIDI is all done, I solo each MIDI track and record it to an audio track. Simple.

I haven't even messed with instrument tracks yet cause I'm so used to this technique.

One.

[tekn0]

I like instrument tracks alot and i find them very usefull for multi out instrument plugins, like Battery or Sampletank.

It would be like putting Battery on your aux and then making say, 3 instrument tracks, then pointing all the midi from them into battery, and then from battey route all the audio from each pad vi the "outputs" back into each instrument channel's input. This way you have all the midi and audio right there on the same track for editing and mixing.

[Tempest19]

It was easy to do things like that in Cubase.

I'm still with PT 6.4 so it makes things a little more complicated but its not so bad

[Dopamine]

<< Then I bus my MIDI tracks to that Aux. So for instance, I Have the Kick MIDI track bussed to it, a snare MIDI track bussed, and a hi-hat MIDI track bussed all to that single Aux track. So I'm only using that one Aux track for Battery. Once the MIDI is all done, I solo each MIDI track and record it to an audio track. Simple. >>

It would be nice to, say, add a touch of reverb to a snare without committing the part to audio. I guess it is not possible w/o instrument tracks.

[Andrew Kinsey]

PC's can be just as reliable and for the same price of the latest Mac you can build a PC that will run more plugins and handle more audio tracks than any Mac machine on the market.

Furthermore, most applications that are cross compatible look the same and work in the same way from my own experience so i dont see what the all hype is about with Mac's.

Maybe its cause they look nice and cost alot so people hype them thinking they must be good. When it comes to CPU performance and value for money, Mac's dont currently compete with PC's and if i want i can make PC completely fanless and use the latest solid state hard drive's that dont spin.

You cant get that option with any Mac.

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kinsey

PC's can be just as reliable and for the same price of the latest Mac you can build a PC that will run more plugins and handle more audio tracks than any Mac machine on the market.

Furthermore, most applications that are cross compatible look the same and work in the same way from my own experience so i dont see what the all hype is about with Mac's.

Maybe its cause they look nice and cost alot so people hype them thinking they must be good. When it comes to CPU performance and value for money, Mac's dont currently compete with PC's and if i want i can make PC completely fanless and use the latest solid state hard drive's that dont spin.

You cant get that option with any Mac.

I don't see how Mac's cost a lot.... Maybe if you are a DIY type of guy they do. But, if you compare the current Intel Macbook's with Dell's top of the line... there isn't a big difference.. But, who really cares? Does it pass audio? Does it work for you? If so, good... I don't want to argue about "processing power on Mac vs PC", it's about even and the fastest of either is more than enough for making/mixing hip hop..

I personally am much more at home on a Mac running Logic... I have had friends tell me how I have to get a PC, and they are always having problems with their systems. My comment was directed towards making beats in PT, which SUCKS!

Either way if you guys want to have a platform war there is always the moan zone...

http://gearslutz.com/board/forumdisplay.php3?f=12

[Andrew Kinsey]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

I don't want to argue about "processing power on Mac vs PC", it's about even and the fastest of either is more than enough for making/mixing hip hop..

Its never been even thats why Mac have now changed from Motorola to Intel processors. They still havent caught up with the latest PC's running dual core processors and it will probably be a while before they do.

Also I think it would be nice if computers could run more than what they currently do, im sure theres plenty of people that have to keep an eye on CPU perfomance whilst mixing.

[halfguard]

i also compose in pt on a pc. ive never had any problems. however, i wiill say that i have a new imac as my home computer and osx is th sh*t. im fine with pt as acomposition tool.

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kinsey

Its never been even thats why Mac have now changed from Motorola to Intel processors. They still havent caught up with the latest PC's running dual core processors and it will probably be a while before they do.

Also I think it would be nice if computers could run more than what they currently do, im sure theres plenty of people that have to keep an eye on CPU perfomance whilst mixing.

The point is that you can get the job done with a Mac or PC, it simply doesn't matter. It's a personal preference. Does a PC sound better than a Mac? OF course not, the point is USE WHAT YOU LIKE...

[InsaneMixaken]

Nuendo does that for you!!

[Tempest19]

Originally Posted by InsaneMixaken

Nuendo does that for you!!

Yeah but Steinberg is pretty dodgy

Lol, nah it does seem that Virtual Instruments run better in other DAWs than PT.

I know the RTAS plugins are supposed to be as stable as VST but why dont people like the midi in PT for making beats?

It just has the same features as everything doesn't it?

[Imagearho]

I find that midi used to suck in Protools and everybody hated it. Now people have been using other platforms to sequence for so long that they really have no idea if the newer versions of Protools are good for sequencing or not. They just feel llike Protools bashing cause its what they know. Kind of like old people and rasism. Plus you have the ones who read these boards so much that have never used pro tools at all but just regurgatate what others are saying about the platform. Those people (you know who you are) should keep quiet till they have really compared the different systems. I'm not the biggest fan of just sequencing in a computer anyway.
Sorry about the rant...

[Imagearho]

By the way:


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LMFAO!

[Tempest19]

Originally Posted by Imagearho

I find that midi used to suck in Protools and everybody hated it. Now people have been using other platforms to sequence for so long that they really have no idea if the newer versions of Protools are good for sequencing or not. They just feel llike Protools bashing cause its what they know. Kind of like old people and rasism. Plus you have the ones who read these boards so much that have never used pro tools at all but just regurgatate what others are saying about the platform. Those people (you know who you are) should keep quiet till they have really compared the different systems. I'm not the biggest fan of just sequencing in a computer anyway.
Sorry about the rant...

I thought there might be a bit of that.

I have no idea what the previous versions were like but moving from Cubase 2 across to PT was seemless and I have all the same features I used to have

[Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kinsey

PC's can be just as reliable and for the same price of the latest Mac you can build a PC that will run more plugins and handle more audio tracks than any Mac machine on the market.

Furthermore, most applications that are cross compatible look the same and work in the same way from my own experience so i dont see what the all hype is about with Mac's.

Maybe its cause they look nice and cost alot so people hype them thinking they must be good. When it comes to CPU performance and value for money, Mac's dont currently compete with PC's and if i want i can make PC completely fanless and use the latest solid state hard drive's that dont spin.

You cant get that option with any Mac.

I just bought Prism Sound Orpheus through Sound Tools in UK 3 weeks ago and still waiting for the rest 250£ and receipt.

How pro is that?

Avoid dealing with this guy Andrew Kinsey.