How to create an 808 kick from scratch

[Seti808]

I would like to be able to create my own 808 kick and be able to control
the sustain of the kick.

How do you guys do it?

[cynic one]

Use an 808 or other drumsynth...................

On the computer:
Waldorf Attack
FL DrumSynth Live
Stomper
RM IV
DR-008

Outside of the CPU:
JoMox xbase / airbase
Novation drumstation

[Seti808]

Those all let you control the sustain so I can create a extra long 808 right?

Is an 808 just a sine wave from say trilogy with some sort of kick sample layered in for attack?

[PhonoquO]

if u have NI battery, just set up some loop points on a segment of audio after the initial attack, play with the envelopes and it's done

[tony666]

Originally Posted by Seti808

Is an 808 just a sine wave from say trilogy with some sort of kick sample layered in for attack?

Sortoff, the 808 bd sound comes from a trigger pulse that goes through a bridged T filter network. It's pretty easy to get the 808 low end sine wave but that clicky 808 attack sound is really difficult to emulate.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb0...ecrets0202.asp This Sound on Sound article discussing bassdrum synthesis may help you.

[slaves666]

You can also create one in Wavelab. Not that hard, but a little complicated. You can also do a search on google and find them. Pretty common sample.

Come on man dont work so hard. Sample the attack with the lows filtered out.

Layer that on the low end sample with looped sustain

Voila 808 BOOOOOOOOOOM

Cheat and use the one from the R8 04 card.

THere's plenty of ways

[STF]

try

http://www.sonicspot.com/subastard/subastard.html

or you could get one of the hundreds of sample cd's with 808's on them

[dirk]

Originally Posted by Seti808

I would like to be able to create my own 808 kick and be able to control
the sustain of the kick.

How do you guys do it?

What tony said.

The 808 kick comes from triggering a multimode filter.

Decay is set with resonance.

Tuning with the filter cutoff.

[dshay]

Stomper works really well and it's free.

look it up.

[bigwillz24]

How about taking a regular kick and using it to trigger a gated signal generator at 60Hz with a slow release (depending on on how long of a 808 bd hit you want)

[con?one]

Originally Posted by Seti808

I would like to be able to create my own 808 kick and be able to control
the sustain of the kick.

How do you guys do it?

i plug in my tr-808

[Feinstrom]

Hardware: try this ( http://www.jomox.de/mbase.html )

Software: try this ( http://www.soniccharge.com/products )

And would you please have fun!

[Seti808]

Thanks for all the replies guys!

Stomper seems to be cool but I wish it was in vst form so i could load it
in nuendo for fast 808 creation but it will do

thanks!!!!

[tony666]

This plugin is freeware and has editable 808 sounds onboard http://www.e-phonic.com/plugins/drumatic_ve.php . It's pretty good.

[Jeffason]

Logic Pro 7 has a synth called "ultrabeat" and I am now almost a master of it.

The things you can do with this are freakin amazing, I'm totally amazed.

I have created the ultimate "crunk" building block patch.

[illynoise]

Originally Posted by Jeffason

Logic Pro 7 has a synth called "ultrabeat" and I am now almost a master of it.

The things you can do with this are freakin amazing, I'm totally amazed.

I have created the ultimate "crunk" building block patch.

Ultra has some really hot kiks.

I find that the hiphop kit with garageband has some of the best 808 kiks that I've ever heard, and if you want to sample one from CD: get a CD copy of "ugly people be quiet" by Cash Money and Marvelous Marv. There's the 808 that I used to sample from 1988 on.

Peace,

BaseJase
Illynoise

[Jeffason]

you talkin about the hip hop kit with the 808 mapped across the lower keys? yeah its great

however, ultrabeat is a synth and you can create 808 sub bass/kicks/etc all with as long a sustain as you'd want, or as short, or layered/distorted/clipped etc...

it really is creating from scratch.

[andrewj]

This Drumbox will fullfill all your needs of an electronic drum! Promised! I used them all hardware and software, still have some others, but this is the most versatile!