Originally Posted by xavier7
sum cat earlier sed the 4000 sounds thin, u mean to tell youve put the exact same sample in on the 4000, 2000xl, 60, 1000 and found the 4000 to be the thinnest thats ass. think befo u speak family. Ive heaqrd the fattest beats made on a 4000(jus blaze until 3months ago wen he stoped usin MPs) if the sample is fat its gon sound fat if the sample is thin its gon sound thin. gota use discrimination for what alot of cats say, take everything with a pinch of salt on these forums..
Uh no, there really is a sonic difference between the units. And the 4000 really is not as fat, it uses the engine as the Z4 which I own, which is pretty much just straightforward "clean" sampling and doesn't add that extra 'bump'.
People seem to confuse good "sound quality" with good "hip-hop sound"... Of course the newer units have higher sound quality, but the older units have a grittier, punchier sound... If I was doing smooth jazz maybe I'd get a 2500
or a 1000, but if you're into hip-hop and R&B "clean" and "high-quality" usually isn't what you're looking for in a drum machine. I don't know why you'd want to get an overpriced box with shiny, crystal-clear sound that's equivalent to what your software sequencer does anyway... Yes the workflow is better, but for that price you should be getting something more than just improved workflow :D
It's like a DBX 160... You buy it for the knock, not the name... If they came out with a "DBX 560" that had all of the same knobs and controls and added some fancy digital features, but didn't add that 'DBX punch' to the audio, why in the world would you want to buy it?
I think a lot of people are buying 2500's and 1000's just to "get an MPC" without realizing that all MPCs are not made alike... They are doing it more for the name than sound/feel. Waste of money in my opinion.
If you're going to pay for one, you may as well get one that has the mpc 'character' that made it famous.